The final TOE?

2011-06-04 Thread Felix Hoenikker
Hi all, Consider the following fully general way of saying this is the following: quantum mechanics and general relativity are symmetrically the exact same theory, modulo the additional bit of information that quantum entanglement reduces net gravitational energy. This is the EXACT answer to the

Prediction: Wormholes and quantum computing are both possible, and the LHC is the most powerful one of both we have right now.

2011-06-04 Thread Felix Hoenikker
Hi all, Sorry for the volume of e-mails in a short space of time. I really want to push the arguments further now. Consider the following: symmetrically the black hole information loss problem, the initial state of the universe problem, the cosmological constant problem, are all rotations under

Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Felix Hoenikker
Sorry again, but I want to add one thing: The broadest mathematical closure of the existence of computation, the observation of consciousness anywhere suggests the following, in my mind: all possible numbers (including transfinite-ones) are, in fact, self aware substructures in the mathematical

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Jason Resch
One thing I thought of recently which is a good way of showing how computation occurs due to the objective truth or falsehood of mathematical propositions is as follows: Most would agree that a statement such as 8 is composite has an eternal objective truth. Likewise the statement: the

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I thought of recently which is a good way of showing how computation occurs due to the objective truth or falsehood of mathematical propositions is as follows: Most would agree that a statement such as 8 is

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I thought of recently which is a good way of showing how computation occurs due to the objective truth or falsehood of mathematical

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I thought of recently which is a good way of showing how

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Noon Silk
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Felix Hoenikker fhoenikk...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry again, but I want to add one thing: The broadest mathematical closure of the existence of computation, the observation of consciousness anywhere suggests the following, in my mind: all possible numbers

Re: Quantum Superposition in Perl

2011-06-04 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Thanks for the link. I have enjoyed the talk. On 12.05.2011 22:20 thermo said the following: Hi, I recently read the Theory of Nothing book by Russell Standish. I wanted to share this talk I watched by Damian Conway... Damian Conway, Thoughtstream: Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jun 2011, at 19:06, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I thought of recently which is a good way of showing how computation occurs due to the objective truth or falsehood of mathematical propositions is as follows:

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi Jason, Very interesting reasoning! From: Jason Resch Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:51 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun

Re: Mathematical closure of consciousness and computation

2011-06-04 Thread Jason Resch
On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com

Re: CUH = Quantum Gravity = MUH = God

2011-06-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Felix, On 03 Jun 2011, at 04:39, Felix Hoenikker wrote: Hi all, I'm a long time reader of this forum with a strong interest in all TOE concepts but has never felt able to contribute to the discussion. However, over the last few days, I think I've discovered a *very* general argument (no