Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/21/2011 1:05 AM, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 08:00:55PM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: There has to be some form of identity thesis between brain and mind that prevents the Occam catastrophe, and also prevent the full retreat into solipsism. I think it very much an open

Re: Where is Truth?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi John, I was not thinking of truth in any absolute sense. I'm not even sure what that concept means... I was just considering the definiteness of the so-called truth value that one associates with Boolean logic, as in it has a range {0,1). There are logics where this can vary over the

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/20/2011 11:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 7:20 PM, nihil0 wrote: I think most consequentialists, especially utilitarians, consider all sentient beings to have moral status. But *equal* moral status? I cannot believe anyone has ever even attempted to live by such an ethic.

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Oct 2011, at 05:30, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 07:03:38PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: This, ISTM, is a completely different, and more wonderful beast, than the UD described in your Brussells thesis, or Schmidhuber's '97 paper. This latter beast must truly give

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Oct 2011, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 11:23 AM, nihil0 wrote: Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are threatened with paralysis: when coupled with some

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/21/2011 8:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Oct 2011, at 05:30, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 07:03:38PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: This, ISTM, is a completely different, and more wonderful beast, than the UD described in your Brussells thesis, or Schmidhuber's '97

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/21/2011 8:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Oct 2011, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 11:23 AM, nihil0 wrote: Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are

Re: Where is Truth?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/21/2011 4:09 PM, John Mikes wrote: *Hi Stephen,* *it seems you are closing to 'my alley'. * *First: if you don't think of T R U T H (in any absolute sense, meaning it's acceptable 'meaning') how can you abide by a version of it? - What are the REALS? * Hi John, I have yet to

Re: The Overlords Gambit

2011-10-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 21, 11:42 am, benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com wrote: Somehow I am bored by this discussion. I'll still post my reply (as I have already written it), in case you are interested. I am unlikely to continue the dicussion, though, so don't bother responding, unless you really want