Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-11-08 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> I would rather call this consciousness. >> >> Indeed I agree with Dan that it is quite accurate to say that there >> is no >> person in the sense that experience is not personal, it doesn't >> "belong" to >> anyone (but it is very intimate with itself nontheless). >

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-08 Thread Spudboy100
In a message dated 11/8/2011 12:36:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com writes: This really puts the suffering we have/had to endure into perspective, and would solve the problem of evil. Of course consciousnss is going to experience a very rough start (which constit

The consciousness singularity

2011-11-08 Thread benjayk
Akin to the idea of the technological singularity, a point in time at which technology becomes so powerful that all aspects of our experiences are fundamentally transformed (mainly due to intelligence enhancement), I propose a consciousness singularity: A point in time at which consciousness becom

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Nov 2011, at 21:02, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: But if you realize that there has never been a person to begin with, But this contradicts immediately my present consciousness feeling. I am currently in the state of wanting to drink water, so I am pretty sure that there exis

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-11-08 Thread benjayk
meekerdb wrote: > > On 11/7/2011 12:02 PM, benjayk wrote: >> I think we only fear the elimination of personhood because we confuse >> being >> conscious as an ego with being conscious. We somehow think that if we in >> the >> state of feeling to be a seperate individual cease to exist, we as >>

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-11-08 Thread benjayk
meekerdb wrote: > > On 11/7/2011 9:50 AM, benjayk wrote: >> meekerdb wrote: >>> > >>> > How great was that? >> I don't know. Being a fetus might be a peaceful experience, or like >> sleep. >> But the point is that it doesn't matter how great the experience was, > > So what's your evidence