Re: Prime numbers

2013-05-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
John, On 26 May 2013, at 00:54, John Mikes wrote: Bruno and others: did you read http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/do_the_math/2013/05/yitang_zhang_twin_primes_conjecture_a_huge_discovery_about_prime_numbers.single.html the information about prof. Zhang's discovery (U of New

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its ...

2013-05-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 May 2013, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote: Whether or not it is recorded or extractable in this universe is immaterial. If the universe is infinitely large or infinitely varied, we each reappear an infinite number of times. There are a countably infinite number of programs, and for any

The Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness

2013-05-26 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
The absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective states. Convergent evidence indicates that non-human animals have the neuroanatomical, neurochemical, and neurophysiological substrates of conscious states along with the capacity to exhibit

On a peculiar blind spot in materialists

2013-05-26 Thread Roger Clough
On a peculiar blind spot in materialists Materialists have a peculiar blind spot in that they do not understand what is meant by the subject/object distinction. The difference between subjective and objective being. That is the ddiference between mind and brain in that mind is a subjective

Materialism fails to account for the first person

2013-05-26 Thread Roger Clough
Materialism fails to account for the first person Sentience or sentient experience or experience or consciousness all require a subject who is conscious. The first person in grammatical language. I. This is missing in materialistic accounts of consciousness, but present in Leibniz's monads.

Re: Materialism fails to account for the first person

2013-05-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 26, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Materialism fails to account for the first person Can non-materialism do better and if so how? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its ...

2013-05-26 Thread meekerdb
On 5/26/2013 1:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 May 2013, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote: Whether or not it is recorded or extractable in this universe is immaterial. If the universe is infinitely large or infinitely varied, we each reappear an infinite number of times. There are

Re: The Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness

2013-05-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 05:05:28PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 May 2013, at 13:29, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: The absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective states. Convergent evidence indicates that non-human animals have the

Re: The Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness

2013-05-26 Thread Jason Resch
On May 26, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 05:05:28PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 May 2013, at 13:29, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: The absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its ...

2013-05-26 Thread spudboy100
Understood, Jason. I became familiar with this digital universe concept, first, through Hans Moravec, in Mind Children. I wonder how possible it is to discover that we are part of an ancestor simulation? -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its ...

2013-05-26 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Understood, Jason. I became familiar with this digital universe concept, first, through Hans Moravec, in Mind Children. I wonder how possible it is to discover that we are part of an ancestor simulation? If computationalism is true