On 26 May 2013, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:

Whether or not it is recorded or extractable in this universe isimmaterial. If the universe is infinitely large or infinitelyvaried, we each reappear an infinite number of times. There are acountably infinite number of programs, and for any given level ofcomplexity, there is a finite number of possible programs shorterthan some length. Any consciousness we simulate is theconsciousness of something that exists somewhere else in theinfinitely varied/infinitely large universe, and if the universe isreally this big, then someone else far away could simulate youperfectly without having to extract a record of you. Just runningBruno's UDA for a long enough time "ressurects" everyone, we areall contained in that short program.To which, one is tempted to respond: So what? If there is all thissimulation going on, what reason is there to suppose it is beingdone by being anything like us or that the worlds in which thesimulations take place (the "real" ones, if there are any) areanything like this one.

Because the FPI makes "this one" a statistical sum on all possible one.

You are simply led back to trying to discover what are possibleworlds, where "possible" can be anything from "familiar enough I canunderstand it" to "nomologically possible" to "not containingcontradictions".

`Possible means "livable from a first person point of view in such a`

`way that you would not see the difference above the substitution`

`level". Below the substitution level, everyone (humans, alien,`

`numbers ..) see the same average on all computations, which, due to`

`the constraints of self-reference and theoretical computer science is`

`a well structured, highly complex, mathematical object.`

`So what? So physics is reduced to arithmetic, or to machine`

`theology... and this in a way which saves humans from reductionism. It`

`makes also comp into science and out of philosophy. All this leads to`

`a different, platonist and non aristotelian, view on "reality". It`

`makes "Matter" into a failed hypothesis (Matter =primitive matter).`

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