Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

2014-03-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Mar 2014, at 22:30, Jesse Mazer wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 21 Mar 2014, at 20:17, Jesse Mazer wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:00 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 Mar 2014, at 22:33, LizR wrote: Am I

Re: Tegmark and UDA

2014-03-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Mar 2014, at 22:41, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: Others worth a look: http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.0589 Is Eternal Inflation Past-Eternal? And What if It Is? Susskind http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.0571 Eternal Inflation, past and future Aguirre Thanks for the reference Gabe. I am happy to see

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

2014-03-22 Thread LizR
One thing about the Game of Life - in the real world it *is* in fact reversible, assuming physics is. Only the ideal, abstract, Platonic GOL isn't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread LizR
On 22 March 2014 22:07, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Germany is scaling down its nuclear energy production and plans to shut down all of it's nucler power plants in the next two decades. This is due to political pressure from the green party amongst others. Meanwhile, it is

Re: Tegmark and UDA

2014-03-22 Thread LizR
Yes thanks I'm reading those (slowly) - Susskind is very interesting so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Mar 2014, at 10:07, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-21

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 March 2014 22:07, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Germany is scaling down its nuclear energy production and plans to shut down all of it's nucler power plants in the next two decades. This is due to political

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Richard, Yes, I noted that in the article. Another explanation I've read for the current (geologically during the past million or so years) fairly regular cycle of ice ages is that it is due to the current distribution of continents, in particular the closing of the Isthmus of Panama which cut

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, What mechanism do they propose for such an abrupt transition from extreme warming to cooling? I would suggest a stoppage of the Gulf stream as a possibility based on plate movement. But I favor the change in albedo due to an unstable jet stream known to result from arctic warming.

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Richard, Since ice ages have been fairly regular since they began, the theory is that the current arrangement of continents sets up a condition in which Milankovich cycles produce regular ice ages. The Milankovich cycles are certainly regular of course which seems to be something that is

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, I gather you have not looked at the link I provided which compares isolation due to the Milankovitch cycles to the Vostok data as well as comparable data over a longer time. http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/milankovitch-cycles-chart-3.jpg Please do so and tell me if you think

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread spudboy100
Veering for a moment back to public policy, this is an example on why I prefer tech solutions as opposed to public policy, which is really control. This scientist aim to reduce stunting via plant breeding. http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/03/make-plants-more-nutritious-to-prevent.html

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Richard, Here is a much better graph showing the correlation. Edgar On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:34:08 AM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: Edgar, I gather you have not looked at the link I provided which compares isolation due to the Milankovitch cycles to the Vostok data as well as comparable

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Spud, Better evidence is that the little ice age was caused by solar variations esp the Maunder minimum. It lasted too long to be attributed to volcanos I would think. However volcanos and smaller asteroid impacts do certainly cause temporary temperature dips lasting for periods of a few years

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, It is hardly a 1:1 correlation. However, if those cycles worked for the last 1/2 million years, they should be expected to still be working now and we can expect global cooling to occur again. Richard On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Spud,

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50

Re: Tegmark and UDA step 3

2014-03-22 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:26:53 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:21, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:19:52 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2014, at 23:19, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:46:23 PM UTC,

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread spudboy100
Another reason to favor something robust as a true answer, (technology) rather then orders from above. If we need an example of the biggest human-created disaster in history, it would be Mao's Great Leap Forward (1958-62) where Mao ordered the peasants to chase birds around and make sure that

Re: Tegmark and UDA step 3

2014-03-22 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:38:07 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 03:53:02PM -0700, ghi...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Then - the notion of Computation being intrinsically conscious - a basic assaumption that I'[d call a major recurrent theme of

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread spudboy100
Agreed, Edgar. I remember the Mount Pinatubo eruption in the Philippines, that destroyed a US air force base (Subic Bay?) and provided the continental US with, a year without a summer. There were a couple of large meteor strikes in the 3rd and 5th century, the later in northern Italy, the

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Richard, The correlation is actually pretty solid, though the discrepancies may indicate some other factors at play also. And what makes you think another ice age isn't coming? it's more or less time for the next one. Or perhaps global warming is what will either stop it or make it less

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

2014-03-22 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote: Chaos theory tells us that even in classical physics a change in a micro state can soon lead to a change in the macro state. And if it's a reversible theory then there are NOT 2 different states of the universe that could

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread meekerdb
On 3/22/2014 8:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

2014-03-22 Thread meekerdb
On 3/22/2014 10:52 AM, John Clark wrote: I'm saying that in classical physics a state can produce only one future state, but any given state can have been produced in more than one way, This is only true if you equivocate on state. If state means microstate of a closed system (in either

Re: Video of VCR

2014-03-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
Continued... On Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:54:41 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:43, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, March 21, 2014 4:44:20 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Mar 2014, at 02:28, Craig Weinberg wrote: I don't think logic can study reality, only

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread ghibbsa
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:45:56 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Mar 2014, at 10:07, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: 2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comjavascript: :

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/22/2014 8:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux

Re: Max and FPI

2014-03-22 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:27:13PM -0800, meekerdb wrote: Here's Max! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC0zHIf2Gkw Brent Thanks for that. One thing that struck me was how ordinary the FPI argument (UDA step 3) seems when Max talks about it. But also how it generalises to unequal probabilities