Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 01:34:04PM -0400, John Clark wrote: Mathematica discovers new solutions to Differential Equations that have never been solved before every hour of every day; if you mean basic techniques for solving Differential Equations the most important ones were discovered in the

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-21 Thread Samiya Illias
Bruno, Thanks for the advise! I never intended to be not humble or not modest, but perhaps I've not been very clear in expressing myself and my beliefs. When I speak of faith being God's gift, it doesn't mean necessarily being a Muslim. In Quran, 2:62, we read: 'Lo! Those who believe (in that

Re: Solar power's bright future

2014-06-21 Thread LizR
On 21 June 2014 13:37, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: *From:* LizR lizj...@gmail.com *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2014 6:10 PM *Subject:* Re: Solar power's bright future That raptor rocket surely doesn't

RE: Solar power's bright future

2014-06-21 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:39 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Solar power's bright future On 21 June 2014 13:37, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-06-21 Thread LizR
*!!! SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE THE 13TH FLOOR AND SHORT STORY THE TUNNEL UNDER THE WORLD BY FRED POHL !!!* We have just watched The Thirteenth Floor :) Wow! ...And I just discovered that the original book was written in *1964!* Wow!!! Thank you so much for recommending that, it was great. (Of

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Mathematica discovers new solutions to Differential Equations that have never been solved before every hour of every day; if you mean basic techniques for solving Differential Equations the most important ones were

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-06-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: [The Thirteenth Floor] Makes The Matrix look a bit passe. I agree, it's a much deeper movie. we watched Inception a little while ago - it was quite nicely structured but somehow lacking humanity, I thought. Yes, I enjoyed

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-21 Thread John Mikes
Dear Samiya: I was raised a 'believer' and studied several religions to end up as a scientific agnostic who does not know the 'why'-s and 'how'-s but asks questions about items other people believe in. Many yeas ago on a different list I engaged in a discussion when an irate 'believer' bursted

Re: Solar power's bright future [ may be brighter thanks to us aping the quantum trickery of certain algae (cryptophytes specifically)]

2014-06-21 Thread John Mikes
Dear Chris, not that your answer sounds a bit vague - I have deeper problems. In my lately (2+decades) absobed agnostic views I find our science a bit incomplete as explanatory ideas (with mathematical underlying) upon poorly understood (iff...?) phenomena adjusted both into the *previous* images

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-06-21 Thread LizR
Thank you, I will try to find a copy of Dark City. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread LizR
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: A person with an IQ of 80 can do the same, provided they have sufficient patience, This is basically the Chinese Room argument in a new disguise, I think. A person with IQ80 could simulate Shakespeare's brain

Re: TRONNIES - SPACE

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:35:58 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 19 June 2014 14:34, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:54:17 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 19 June 2014 02:01, jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: My point is that the logic behind Einstein's special

Re: Selecting your future branch

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:53:29 AM UTC+1, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Quentin Anciaux allc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I won't enter with you again on this debate Coward. Call him a coward johnnie boywot about you? :O) I just went to that trouble

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread Kim Jones
On 22 Jun 2014, at 6:33 am, John Clark wrote: A person with an IQ of 80 can do the same, provided they have sufficient patience, Interestingly, it turns out that those with moderate IQs have the highest levels of patience. They are aware that they don't have a V8 engine upstairs so they

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:03:53 AM UTC+1, Kim Jones wrote: On 22 Jun 2014, at 6:33 am, John Clark wrote: A person with an IQ of 80 can do the same, provided they have sufficient patience, Interestingly, it turns out that those with moderate IQs have the highest levels of

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 1:54:41 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:03:53 AM UTC+1, Kim Jones wrote: On 22 Jun 2014, at 6:33 am, John Clark wrote: A person with an IQ of 80 can do the same, provided they have sufficient patience, Interestingly, it

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:19:20 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:03:48 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: it looks like I sent it by accident while still writing. I'll come to this later with the rest, cheer. On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:02:45 PM

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:02:32 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:19:20 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:03:48 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: it looks like I sent it by accident while still writing. I'll come to this

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
this bit is actually your core reasoning on my reading: *Evolution can see intelligence but it can't directly see consciousness any better than we can* On Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:08:56 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:02:32 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 1:54:41 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:03:53 AM UTC+1, Kim Jones wrote: On 22 Jun 2014, at 6:33 am, John Clark wrote: A person with an IQ of 80 can do the same, provided they have sufficient patience, Interestingly, it

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread Kim Jones
Al Hibbs - I am still receiving every one of your posts TWICE. Please stop placing my personal email address in the cc field of each of your posts. My inbox is full to bursting with you. You are, in addition, a very prolific and a very verbose writer. This amounts to a kind of torture, albeit

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
Kim - we spoke about this luv, I assumed all was good. However, I have just noticed a little ticky box about original authorwhich I am duly unticking. I hope this helps...but if things are as bad as you illustrate, perhaps half a torture is still a torture too much by 'alf, as they say.

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:50:24 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: Kim - we spoke about this luv, I assumed all was good. However, I have just noticed a little ticky box about original authorwhich I am duly unticking. I hope this helps...but if things are as bad as you illustrate,

Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute

2014-06-21 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:04:32 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:50:24 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: Kim - we spoke about this luv, I assumed all was good. However, I have just noticed a little ticky box about original authorwhich I am duly

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-21 Thread Samiya Illias
Dear John, According to what I read in the Quran and my understanding of it, all of us humans, men and women, are in pledge for our beliefs and our deeds (Quran 52:21), and will benefit from our truthfulness (Quran 5:119). We are all being tested, and all those who pass this terrestrial exam and