On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
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meekerdb wrote:
ISTM there are two ways of looking at it. In one you say before the
event there were several possibilities x,y,z,... with probabilites
a,b,c,... and one of them, x, happened. The energy before
The article was about the bad fit.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:58 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 November 2014 at 11:53, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The continuing tests have been done. The results are in. That is what the
article is about.
I only saw references to a
On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:07, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Richard Ruquist wrote:
With MWI thinking, every detector will detect a photon at the same
energy and frequency as the original photon but in a different
world. So the total energy in the
On 24 Nov 2014, at 16:58, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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On 23 Nov 2014, at 18:11, Richard
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 , LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If intelligent behavior is not a test for consciousness then how do you
know that such machines are not conscious? For that matter how do you know
that a rock is not conscious but your fellow human beings are conscious
when they're not
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't think John's post implied that conscious was another word for
intelligence. I think his position is that a being could be conscious
without being intelligent (which would be consistent with aware of one's
self and
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:27:35 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 , LizR liz...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
If intelligent behavior is not a test for consciousness then how do you
know that such machines are not conscious? For that matter how do you know
that a rock
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 zibb...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that too, but then I think that intelligent behavior is the
test for consciousness, it's not a perfect test but it's the only test we
have.
Is that more accurate than saying we do not have a test for
consciousness ?
No, a test
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014, at 16:58, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Bruno
http://mayaofauckland.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/do-quantum-mechanics-overcharge-not-after-renormalisation/
In case anyone out there is into cryptic crosswords. This has a bit of a
science theme :-)
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And I said that it seemed to me that if dark matter was being destroyed
galaxies should be expanding, and asked if there was any observational
evidence to support this.
On 25 November 2014 at 23:44, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The article was about the bad fit.
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I don´t though it very much. But it is applicable to any imaginable goal.
Since certain self interests will go against any collective interest that
we can imagine. And the best way to advance self interest is indeed to use
ideology to hide deleterious self interests behind any true or false good
On 26 November 2014 at 04:27, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 , LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If intelligent behavior is not a test for consciousness then how do you
know that such machines are not conscious? For that matter how do you know
that a rock is not
On 26 November 2014 at 04:38, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't think John's post implied that conscious was another word for
intelligence. I think his position is that a being could be conscious
without being
On 11/25/2014 2:00 PM, LizR wrote:
On 26 November 2014 at 04:38, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
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I don't think John's post implied that conscious was
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