On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:27:35 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 , LizR <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> > If intelligent behavior is not a test for consciousness then how do you 
>> know that such machines are not conscious? For that matter how do you know 
>> that a rock is not conscious but your fellow human beings are conscious 
>> when they're not sleeping or under anesthesia or dead? 
>>
>
> I have no doubt that you believe that your fellow human beings are 
> conscious when they are not in certain states, such as the state of being 
> asleep or the state of being under anesthesia, or the state of being dead. 
> I also have no doubt you believe  rocks are not conscious in every state 
> they are capable of being in. My question to you is if intelligent behavior 
> is not a test for consciousness then how did you make this determination? 
>
>  > On the balance of probabilities, however, I would say that rocks most 
>> likely aren't conscious, and that people probably are (when not asleep etc).
>>
>
> I believe that too, but then I think that intelligent behavior is the test 
> for consciousness, it's not a perfect test but it's the only test we have. 
>

Is that more accurate than saying "we do not have a test for consciousness" 
?

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