Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruce Kellett
meekerdb wrote: On 3/17/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 02:29, LizR wrote: On 16 March 2015 at 06:49, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Organisms apply pressure on surfaces, even if they are dead. This is just a property of chunks of solid matter.

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruce Kellett
Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not sure I have fully understood his answer to the main problem.

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-17 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Mar 2015, at 11:47, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Extra virgin, extra virgin looove! That's from the intro jingle to a Yank cooking show. Now imagine Watson being an app and putting on yer phones-what could it achieve for us? I think if we achieve tru AI, without me knowing any better, I say imitate nature if we can. Spindle cells,

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I think we need a Sequel of sorts to Amoeba, as well as the Theory of Nothing (yours). Which you two must know you have a ready market. Mitch -Original Message- From: Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Mar 16, 2015

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Me neither but its supposed to be an ultra highspeed train from LA -SF. Like in Aussie (yes I remember your Kiwiness) where it'd be Melbourne to Sydney, kind of. Will it ever be built? Well the dude has cash invested so its kind of neat in the 19th cent,. industrialist kind of thing with

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 02:15, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote consciousness may be an necessary spandrel of brain architecture, but NOT of intelligence in general. The same drugs that make me behave stupidly also makes me feel less conscious,

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread meekerdb
On 3/17/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not sure I have fully

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-17 Thread LizR
Yes 20 copies can be sold to the people on this list! (After that it gets more difficult...) The Amoeba's Secret Theory of Nothing has a ring to it :-) On 18 March 2015 at 00:03, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: I think we need a Sequel of sorts to

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-17 Thread LizR
Elon Musk wants to send people to Mars apparently. On 18 March 2015 at 00:01, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Me neither but its supposed to be an ultra highspeed train from LA -SF. Like in Aussie (yes I remember your Kiwiness) where it'd be Melbourne

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 03:57, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: You assume that intelligence only comes from brains. Only a fool would not assume that and I am not a fool. It is true that drugs that make brains less intelligent make them less

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 15:33, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote: An excellent talk by Sean Carroll explicating where the gaps are in Everett's MWI as applied to cosmology and providing a solution to the Boltzmann brain problem:

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote: On 3/16/2015 12:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/15/2015 7:10 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/13/2015

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2015, at 00:32, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: you've exaggerated the example to create a straw man. Watson has some local database, he doesn't access the web for everything; so my analogy is correct. How is that a straw man??

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 11:47, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke! Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves,