Re: LIGO found a second Black Hole collision!

2016-06-15 Thread Brent Meeker
When you look somewhere new, you see new things. To bad Joe Weber didn't live to see this. Brent On 6/15/2016 7:25 PM, John Clark wrote: After analyzing the data from LIGO's brief engineering run the scientists there just announced they have found a second Black Hole merger. A Black Hole

LIGO found a second Black Hole collision!

2016-06-15 Thread John Clark
After analyzing the data from LIGO's brief engineering run the scientists there just announced they have found a second Black Hole merger. A Black Hole of 14 solar masses merged with one of 8 solar masses and produced a Black Hole of 21 solar masses and gravitational waves with 1 solar mass of

Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-06-15 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/15/2016 9:25 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Yes. The point of my crude simplification was to argue that, in the extreme, computationalism creates no more of a mystery about consciousness than physicalism. But does it make it any less? Brent -- You received this message because you are

Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-06-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:25, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Jun 2016, at 16:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 13/06/2016 7:12 am, Brent Meeker

Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-06-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
Bruce, Brent, You are lucky I have not really the time to comment each line of your posts, so to sum up, I thinks you miss the point or some point. Brent made many valid replies to Bruce, though. So I will need to search what is going wrong, which is exactly the point you miss. I am

Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-06-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 14 Jun 2016, at 16:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >>> >>> On 13/06/2016 7:12 am, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> On 6/12/2016 10:27 AM,

Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-06-15 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 15/06/2016 3:39 pm, Brent Meeker wrote: On 6/14/2016 9:33 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: That seems to be assuming a lot! Assuming that consciousness is a (type of) computation does not imply that non-arithmetical substrates exist, much less that pencil and paper exist. Knowing that something