Re: Is Artificial Life Conscious?

2022-05-03 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Beyond my intellectual pay scale Jason. So far, nobody has developed a Turing passable machine that knocks us down with it's effectiveness to pass as a human "soul."  I would be happy to let humans be human and instead, & amp up our technological capabilities via machine intelligence.Thus,

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 10:11 PM smitra wrote: > On 28-04-2022 07:51, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM Brent Meeker > > wrote: > > > >> On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: > >> > >>> On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> Changing the weights of the components in

Entanglement and Superposition Are Equivalent Concepts in Any Physical Theory

2022-05-03 Thread Dirk Van Niekerk
May be of interest: Entanglement and Superposition Are Equivalent Concepts in Any Physical Theory ABSTRACT We prove that given any two general probabilistic theories (GPTs) the following are equivalent: (i) each theory is nonclassical, meaning that neither of their state spaces is a simplex;

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/3/2022 5:00 AM, smitra wrote: On 28-04-2022 07:24, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:03 AM smitra wrote: On 24-04-2022 03:16, Bruce Kellett wrote: A moment's thought should make it clear to

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/3/2022 4:48 AM, smitra wrote: On 28-04-2022 07:23, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/27/2022 10:38 AM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 04:08, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:03 AM smitra wrote: On

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/3/2022 4:40 AM, smitra wrote: On 28-04-2022 02:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/27/2022 2:00 PM, smitra wrote: If you agree, and are prepared, with me, to throw out Everett, then we agree, and there is nothing more to be argued about (at least, until you present some different complete

RE: Is Artificial Life Conscious?

2022-05-03 Thread Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin] The question: "If simple creatures like worms or insects are conscious, (because they have brains, and evolved), then wouldn't these artificial life forms be conscious for the same reasons? " is irrelevant. Simple creatures reproduce. Will robots reproduce? Baby robots? Do

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread smitra
On 03-05-2022 14:11, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:40 PM smitra wrote: On 28-04-2022 02:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/27/2022 2:00 PM, smitra wrote: If you agree, and are prepared, with me, to throw out Everett, then we agree, and there is nothing more to be argued about

Re: Is Artificial Life Conscious?

2022-05-03 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 7:06 PM Russell Standish wrote: > *> Hi John, always a pleasure to cross swords with your brain :).* Greetings Russell, and I feel the same way you do; or at least I'm pretty sure I do, but there is always a bit of uncertainty when determining the conscious state of

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread smitra
On 28-04-2022 07:51, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: Changing the weights of the components in the superposition does not change the conclusion of most observers that the

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:40 PM smitra wrote: > On 28-04-2022 02:14, Brent Meeker wrote: > > On 4/27/2022 2:00 PM, smitra wrote: > > > >>> If you agree, and are prepared, > >>> with me, to throw out Everett, then we agree, and there is nothing > >>> > >>> more to be argued about (at least, until

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread smitra
On 28-04-2022 07:24, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:03 AM smitra wrote: On 24-04-2022 03:16, Bruce Kellett wrote: A moment's thought should make it clear to you that this is not possible. If both

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread smitra
On 28-04-2022 07:23, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/27/2022 10:38 AM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 04:08, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/26/2022 5:32 PM, smitra wrote: On 27-04-2022 01:37, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:03 AM smitra wrote: On 24-04-2022 03:16, Bruce Kellett wrote: A

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-03 Thread smitra
On 28-04-2022 02:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/27/2022 2:00 PM, smitra wrote: If you agree, and are prepared, with me, to throw out Everett, then we agree, and there is nothing more to be argued about (at least, until you present some different complete theory). I'm open to the idea that QM