Re: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment

2012-10-08 Thread Roger Clough
be experienced as one. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/8/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-07, 10:12:50 Subject: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re

Re: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment

2012-10-08 Thread Roger Clough
a computer has. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/8/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-07, 11:06:17 Subject: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re

Re: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
: everything-list Time: 2012-10-07, 11:06:17 Subject: Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment Roger, If human consciousness comes from attached monads, as I think you have claimed, then why could not these monads attach to sufficiently complex computers as well

Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment

2012-10-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Oct 2012, at 14:17, Roger Clough wrote: Hi John Clark Unless computers can deal with inextended objects such as mind and experience, they cannot be conscious. Consciousness is direct experience, computers can only deal in descriptions of experience. Everything that a computer does

Re: Can computers be conscious ? Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment

2012-10-07 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger, If human consciousness comes from attached monads, as I think you have claimed, then why could not these monads attach to sufficiently complex computers as well. Richard On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi John Clark Unless computers can deal with