Re: KIM 2.1

2009-01-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Ronald, On 21 Dec 2008, at 15:40, Bruno Marchal wrote: How is there any mathematics with nothing to conceive of it? Let me try a straightest answer from math, with an example. Take the digital or discrete line. You can map it on the integers. It is the symmetrical extension of the

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-24 Thread John Mikes
Bruno and Kim, enjoyable discours by two math.-ly impaired minds (excuse me Kim!) - I met several youngsters (up to 70 y.o.) who simply had no 'pitch' to math - yet were good smart artists, even business(wo)men, parents and technicians (not so with politicians, they are not what I call 'smart').

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Kim, On 20 Dec 2008, at 06:06, Kim Jones wrote: Hmmm... My diagnostic is that you are suffering from an acute form of math-anxiety. I can cure that! Looks like I have to say Yes, Doctor again! Good! Tell me first if you have been once mentally or physically raped or

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-21 Thread JohnM
...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:25 PM Subject: Re: KIM 2.1 On 21/12/2008, at 6:12 AM, John Mikes wrote: Kim, although I try to keep my common sense, I do enjoy sometimes the follies in the transport and zombie etc. abominations. To bring in, however, why a 'machine' should

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Ronald, On 19 Dec 2008, at 14:31, ronaldheld wrote: Bruno: I may have missed something in the last two days. I still do not understand. You say this starts with the real world, which to me is the physical universe/Multiverse, but it actually starts with arithmetic. Your remark

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-20 Thread John Mikes
Kim, although I try to keep my common sense, I do enjoy sometimes the follies in the transport and zombie etc. abominations. To bring in, however, why a 'machine' should be in English a lady, is too much for me. In 'my' language there are NO genders at all, almost as in Swedish (utrum = human

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-20 Thread Kim Jones
On 21/12/2008, at 6:12 AM, John Mikes wrote: Kim, although I try to keep my common sense, I do enjoy sometimes the follies in the transport and zombie etc. abominations. To bring in, however, why a 'machine' should be in English a lady, is too much for me. In 'my' language there are NO

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-19 Thread ronaldheld
Bruno: I may have missed something in the last two days. I still do not understand. You say this starts with the real world, which to me is the physical universe/Multiverse, but it actually starts with arithmetic. How is there any mathematics with nothing to conceive of it? What are the

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 19/12/2008, at 5:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: you think it's impolite to think of a machine as a sexless it (as in Anglais) -- yet you quite arbitrarily assign a feminine gender to the word!!! What's so feminine about a machine anyway? What if the machine is gay? It might fit Gay

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Dec 2008, at 03:29, Kim Jones wrote: On 16/12/2008, at 5:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ... I assume very short scanning-annihilation times and short receipting- reconstitution times. Hypotheses like that, or like the fact that your generalized brain is in your skull, will be

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Dec 2008, at 12:31, Kim Jones wrote: On 16/12/2008, at 5:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Kim, You have accepted the artificial digital brain. They got the colour wrong but that's OK - it would only have been worth it if I'd gone for the transparent cranium option as well Ah ah!

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-17 Thread Kim Jones
On 16/12/2008, at 5:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Kim, You have accepted the artificial digital brain. They got the colour wrong but that's OK - it would only have been worth it if I'd gone for the transparent cranium option as well This means that you say yes to the doctor who

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-17 Thread Kim Jones
On 18/12/2008, at 5:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Gosh, Kim, don't tell me that you will enjoy the full UDA, because this would, not doubt, trig in me a strong motivation for explaining to you the arithmetical version of the UDA; that is; how to explain the UDA to the universal machine,