Bruno:
   I may have missed something in the last two days.
   I still do not understand. You say this starts with the real world,
which to me is the physical universe/Multiverse, but it actually
starts with arithmetic. How is there any mathematics with nothing to
conceive of it? What are the computations running on, where did the
program come from and still what is it running on. It should still
take a net amount of enegry to run computations.
 
Ronald
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