Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > > Remember that the analysis I have given above is schematic, representing > the general progression of unitary evolution. It is not specific to any > particular case, or any particular number of possible outcomes for the

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:03:28 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: Remember that the analysis I have given above is schematic, representing the general

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 5 giugno 2018 alle 5.05 Bruce Kellett ha > scritto: > > From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > From: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: Remember that the analysis I have given above is schematic, representing the general progression of unitary evolution. It is not specific to any particular case, or any

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:03:28 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > > On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> Remember that the analysis I have given above is schematic, representing >> the general progression of unitary evolution. It is not specific

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 9:05:13 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > > On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:03:28 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> Remember that the analysis I have given above is

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On 4 June 2018 at 23:48, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 6/4/2018 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > I am very grateful for mother medicine, but > we should not pretend that its operative assumptions solve the > fundamental questions. > > What fundamental question do you refer to? How to detect

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On 4 June 2018 at 17:11, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 3 Jun 2018, at 20:40, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On 2 June 2018 at 17:10, John Clark wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Telmo Menezes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to see Bruno actually quote some well known philosophers or

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On 4 June 2018 at 20:30, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 6/4/2018 3:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> Most scientists and scientifically-literate people I know assume that >> consciousness emerges from brain activity without ever really thinking >> about the ramifications of this hypothesis. I have

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 2:05 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:03:28 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:18:29 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: Remember that the analysis I have given above is

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 2:48 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *One objective was to convince myself whether the wf you have written for decoherence makes any sense. Originally I thought one needed mutual interference of all components for it to be viable. I doubted whether each component interferes

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 7:58 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If I understand correctly, you define free-will as the ability to act independently from other people, biological instincts and so on. My problem is that free-will must be free from something. I can accept it as a relative concept -- my free-will in

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 8:12 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On 4 June 2018 at 20:30, Brent Meeker wrote: On 6/4/2018 3:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Most scientists and scientifically-literate people I know assume that consciousness emerges from brain activity without ever really thinking about the

Re: Primary matter

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 7:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On 4 June 2018 at 23:48, Brent Meeker wrote: On 6/4/2018 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: I am very grateful for mother medicine, but we should not pretend that its operative assumptions solve the fundamental questions. What fundamental question do

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:02:11 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/5/2018 2:48 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > *One objective was to convince myself whether the wf you have written for > decoherence makes any sense. Originally I thought one needed mutual > interference of all components

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:02:11 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 6/5/2018 2:48 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: *One objective was to convince myself whether the wf you have written for decoherence makes any sense. Originally I thought one

Re: Entanglement

2018-06-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/5/2018 5:05 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:02:11 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 6/5/2018 2:48 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: *One objective was to convince myself whether the wf you have written for decoherence makes