Asunto: Re: Quantum accident survivor

2003-11-08 Thread logical
Here is the question I wonder about. Is it meaningful for Eric01 to consider the concept of precisely the one Eric that he is? Or would you say that it is fundamentally impossible for a system (e.g. Eric01) to accurately conceive of the concept of itself as a completely specified and single

Re: Request for a glossary of acronyms

2003-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
My message 6/11 to Alberto Gómez seems not to have gone through. I send it again. Apology for those who did receive it. B. At 09:24 06/11/03 +0100, Alberto Gómez wrote: For me there is no bigger step between to wonder about how conscience arises from a universe made by atoms in a Newtonian

Re: Fw: Quantum accident survivor

2003-11-08 Thread Eric Cavalcanti
- Original Message - From: Jesse Mazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree that a moment from now there will be a number of exactly equal copies. Nevertheless, I am sure I will only experience being one of them, so this is what I mean by ' me ' - the actual experiences I will have. Maybe

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, conservation

2003-11-08 Thread Ron McFarland
On 7 Nov 2003 at 10:25, Joao Leao wrote: OK. I get your point. That supersolipsistic situation is rendered somewhat unlikely by the fact that galaxies seem to be structuraly stable (the dark matter issue), in other words, they do not seem to berak apart with the accelerated expansion. The

Social issues with replicated people

2003-11-08 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Readers of this list interested in issues of personal identity in the face of replication might enjoy the Sci-Fi novel Kiln People by David Brin. In the novel, a technology has been discovered that allows a person's soul standing wave (sic) to be copied into a kind of bio-engineered clay

Re: Quantum accident survivor

2003-11-08 Thread Eric Cavalcanti
Hi, I found this post really thoughtful, but I didn't quite agree. Let's see if I can argue on it: Doesn't this part: In a materialistic framework, ' I ' am a bunch of atoms. These atoms happen to constitute a system that has self-referential qualities that we call consciousness. If it

Re: Quantum accident survivor

2003-11-08 Thread Russell Standish
Saibal Mitra wrote: To get the effect you were suggesting would require another type of SSA, about which I have complete failure of imagination. I think it is similar. You have a set of all universes which we identify with descriptions or programs. Embedded in these descriptions are

Re: Quantum accident survivor

2003-11-08 Thread George Levy
Russel, If you view the "observer-moments" as transitions rather than states, then there is no need for requiring a time dimension. Each observer-moments carries with it its own subjective feeling of time. Different observer-moments can form vast networks without any time requirement. Saibal

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, conservation

2003-11-08 Thread Ron McFarland
Greetings, Brent. Thanks for joining the conversation! On 8 Nov 2003 at 14:37, Brent Meeker wrote: I think you are misinterpreting inflation. The cosmological constant produces an inflationary pressure that's proportional to volume, so over large distances it dominates over gravity. But