Re: measure again '10

2010-01-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 26-janv.-10, à 22:29, Jack Mallah a écrit : --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 23:16, Jack Mallah wrote: Killing one man is not OK just because he has a brother. In our context, the 'brother' has the same consciousness. The brother most

Re: UDA steps 5 and 6: huh?

2010-01-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 27-janv.-10, à 01:39, Mark Buda a écrit : Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 23:15, Mark Buda wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 04:39, Mark Buda wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: I would suggest the SANE 2004 paper: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHAL.htm Are you OK

Re: measure again '10

2010-01-27 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2010/1/27 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: See above. That would be a measure-conserving process, so it would be OK. I would be upset at the prospect of someone killing me even if they filled the world with angelic beings by way of atonement, because it would not feel as if any of them were

Re: UDA steps 5 and 6: huh?

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Buda
Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 27-janv.-10, à 01:39, Mark Buda a écrit : Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 23:15, Mark Buda wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 04:39, Mark Buda wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: I would suggest the SANE 2004 paper:

Re: measure again '10

2010-01-27 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2010/1/27 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: See above. That would be a measure-conserving process, so it would be OK. I would be upset at the prospect of someone killing me even if they filled the world with angelic beings by way of atonement, because it

Re: UDA steps 5 and 6: huh?

2010-01-27 Thread Brent Meeker
Mark Buda wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 27-janv.-10, à 01:39, Mark Buda a écrit : Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 23:15, Mark Buda wrote: On 25 Jan 2010, at 04:39, Mark Buda wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: I would suggest the SANE

Re: problem of size '10

2010-01-27 Thread Jack Mallah
I'm replying to this bit seperately since Bruno touched on a different issue than the others have. My reply to the main measure again '10 thread will follow under the original title. --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I would also not say yes to a computationalist

Re: measure again '10

2010-01-27 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 28 January 2010 05:31, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: If I understand you correctly, your discussion of copies really refers to copies that exist in different identical worlds, e.g. like different copies of the same AI running in identical virtual environments, so that they can

Re: measure again '10

2010-01-27 Thread Jason Resch
Jack, What you mentioned ending the existence of a suffering copy can be positive. I am curious, would you consider ending any observer whose quality of life was less than the average weighted (by number of copies) quality of life of all observers everywhere? Consider this example:

Re: problem of size '10

2010-01-27 Thread Jason Resch
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm replying to this bit seperately since Bruno touched on a different issue than the others have. My reply to the main measure again '10 thread will follow under the original title. --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Bruno Marchal

A Question...

2010-01-27 Thread freqflyer07281972
Hey There, I love reading the posts on this group, and I find a lot of the ideas mindblowing (and more than occasionally over my head) but I was wondering if anyone could clarify this question(s): 1) Is QI implied by UDA and comp? 2) Is QI implied by ASSA/RSSA? More generally, what is the