Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 28 February 2010 17:38, Rex Allen rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: People believe and do all sorts of crazy things, as I'm sure you know. The psychological capacity for just about any possible behaviour is there, but the very maladaptive behaviours are rare. It's not that it's difficult to

Re: Definition of universe

2010-02-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Feb 2010, at 18:38, David Nyman wrote: On 8 Feb, 14:12, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The main problem with Tegmark is that he assumes an implicit identity thesis mind/observer-state which does not work once we assume the computationalist hypothesis, (and thus cannot work with

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Feb 2010, at 07:33, Rex Allen wrote: What would the causal mechanism for natural selection be? A selection field? Selection particles? Spooky selection at a distance??? No, it is (mainly) Sex. Selection by individual seduction. On some level. Chatting universal chromosomes. On

Re: Definition of universe

2010-02-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 February 2010 15:45, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: UDA shows that the wave equation (not just the collapse) has to emerge from a relative state measure on all computational histories. The schroedinger equation has to be itself the result of the abandon of the identity thesis.

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2010 10:33 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Rex Allen wrote: Note that I am not arguing that this particular belief is an impossible belief. What I'm arguing is that evolution doesn't help you one way or the other in

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2010 10:38 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 February 2010 05:33, Rex Allenrexallen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying here. Is it that peoples' beliefs could not be other than what

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
Okay, I think maybe we're getting somewhere! On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 February 2010 17:38, Rex Allen rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: People believe and do all sorts of crazy things, as I'm sure you know. The psychological capacity for

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 28 Feb 2010, at 07:33, Rex Allen wrote: What would the causal mechanism for natural selection be?  A selection field?  Selection particles?  Spooky selection at a distance??? No, it is (mainly) Sex. Selection

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: I think you have to narrow a concept of explanation; you seem to confine it to causal physical chain at the most fundamental level.  If someone asked you whether you expected a newly discovered animal species to be one