Re: Was:Singularity - Re: Intelligence

2010-04-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Apr 2010, at 19:07, Brent Meeker wrote: I think intelligence in the context of a particular world requires acting within that world. Humans learn language starting with ostensive definition: (pointing) There that's a chair. Sit in it. That's what it's for. Move it where you

Re: Was:Singularity - Re: Intelligence

2010-04-17 Thread John Mikes
On Apr 15, 11:21 pm, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: I agree with the above and pushing the idea further has led me to the conclusion that intelligence is only relative to an environment. If you consider Hume's argument that induction cannot be justified - yet it is the basis of

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: On 4/15/2010 8:01 PM, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: Let's assume that our best scientific theories tell us something true about the way the world *really* is, in an ontological sense. And further, for simplicity,

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM, rexallen...@gmail.com rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws more probable than deceptive ones? For every honest universe

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread rexallen...@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 4:02 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Apr 2010, at 05:01, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws more probable than deceptive ones?  For every honest universe it would seem possible to have an infinite

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread rexallen...@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Skeletori sami.per...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 16, 6:01 am, rexallen...@gmail.com rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws more probable than deceptive ones?  For every honest universe it would seem possible