Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 7/18/2012 12:21 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 18.07.2012 21:08 meekerdb said the following: On 7/18/2012 10:32 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian civilization until XVIII century at least, as measured in objective evolutionary terms

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

Sorry. I have noting to learn from this thread. I prefer to discuss other things that I mentioned above that are far more interesting . . 2012/7/18 meekerdb : > On 7/18/2012 10:32 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: >> >> For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian >> civilization

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 18.07.2012 21:08 meekerdb said the following: On 7/18/2012 10:32 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian civilization until XVIII century at least, as measured in objective evolutionary terms. You mean the one that squelched Greek scie

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 7/18/2012 10:32 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian civilization until XVIII century at least, as measured in objective evolutionary terms. You mean the one that squelched Greek science (which had to be preserved by the Persians) a

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 7/18/2012 6:28 AM, R AM wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: Well ... you are the one who continue to mock free-will, despite many of us have given new precise, and compatibilist, definition of it, and you do this without mak

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 7/18/2012 5:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Let g be the proposition that God exists. And let me be the proposition that Matter (primitive matter) exists. Then, by the most common definition of atheism, atheists are doubly believer as they verify, with B for "believes": B~g and Bm. Science is

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On 7/18/2012 3:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Not for the atheists nearby. They vindicate that the believe that there is no God. You need to distinguish what you mean by "God". When written capitalized as a proper noun it refers to a person/being who created the world and wants to be obeyed and

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian civilization until XVIII century at least, as measured in objective evolutionary terms. 2012/7/14 meekerdb : > On 7/13/2012 4:31 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > > 2012/7/14 meekerdb >> >> On 7/13/2012 4:07 PM, Alberto G. Corona

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > the atheist "scientists" I met, who were probably manipulated (which > makes things more complex) made clear that physicalism is not something you > can reasonably doubt about. If doubt is not productive then it is not reasonable, if a phy

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Well ... you are the one who continue to mock free-will, despite many of > us have given new precise, and compatibilist, definition of it, and you do > this without making precise that you limit yourself to the non sensical > notion. > >

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

Le 17-juil.-12, à 19:42, John Clark a écrit : On Tue, Jul 17, 2012  Bruno Marchal wrote: > I feel like you give credit to the definition of theology given by the Roman Church, instead of using the term in its more general sense, which is well illustrated by the non necessary exclusively ch

Re: Contra Step 8 of UDA

Le 17-juil.-12, à 19:23, Stephen P. King a écrit : On 7/15/2012 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Jul 2012, at 18:48, Stephen P. King wrote: On 7/14/2012 5:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Jul 2012, at 11:16, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 14.07.2012 11:00 Bruno Marchal said the followin

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

Le 17-juil.-12, à 19:09, meekerdb a écrit : On 7/17/2012 12:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jul 2012, at 19:37, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012  Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Theology is about believing in something when there is absolutely bsolutely no reason for doing so, it is calle

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

Le 17-juil.-12, à 19:05, Evgenii Rudnyi a écrit : On 17.07.2012 09:54 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 16 Jul 2012, at 21:05, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 15.07.2012 16:50 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 14 Jul 2012, at 18:21, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... but it looks like that your