Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-25 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:17:34AM -0400, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Bruno's argument shows that they must be a part of the phenomenal (experienced) world if COMP is true. OK then comp is false. And now that

Re: CTM and the UDA (again!)

2014-10-25 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:53:08PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: On 10/24/2014 6:53 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:35:36AM -0700, meekerdb wrote: So are you simply assuming there is a winner, i.e. that the relevant statistics exist in the limit? Even if they do, it's not

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: If you sample the Geiger counter every second, and ask the question has an electron triggered the counter in the previous second, one gets a sequence of zeros and ones, that is bounded only by the length of time

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-25 Thread Terren Suydam
I find this quite surprising too and wonder if Brent could weigh in as I'm out of my league on that stuff. Terren On Oct 25, 2014 12:23 AM, Peter Sas peterjacco...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... That's quite shocking! I see I have to be much more careful in taking over what the pop science writers

Re: CTM and the UDA (again!)

2014-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote: Had some trouble following your post (in part because I don't know all the acronyms), It's very simple, just look them up on Google or Wikipedia: Comp = give something away for free UDA = Universal Dance Association

Fwd: The Span of Infinity

2014-10-25 Thread meekerdb
May be of interest to the group. Later today. Brent Original Message The Span of Infinity Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:30-4:30 pm http://www.helixcenter.org/roundtables/the-span-of-infinity/ This is a panel discussion taking place this afternoon in NYC (so I assume

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-25 Thread meekerdb
Bruce is a very good physicist and he's right. John Baez has a good discussion of the point on his blog. Brent On 10/25/2014 7:51 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: I find this quite surprising too and wonder if Brent could weigh in as I'm out of my league on that stuff. Terren On Oct 25, 2014

Re: Are We Really Conscious? (NYT Article today)

2014-10-25 Thread David Nyman
On 21 October 2014 17:58, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 20 Oct 2014, at 00:56, David Nyman wrote: On 19 October 2014 17:48, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Oct 2014, at 15:26, David Nyman wrote: On 19 October 2014 02:10, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 26 Oct 2014, at 1:28 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: If you say so, but I don't care if COMP is dealt a serious blow or not. John K Clark You must care you bloody blowhard because you daily go to considerable lengths to show just how important it is to you. It’s

Re: The Span of Infinity

2014-10-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Brent, I am quite familiar with Eric Steinhardt Paterson University, NJ. He deals philosophically as a philosopher does, with the idea of immortality, and identity. I believe I'm not incorrect when I say he believes multiple versions of yourself naturally

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail I like Larry Krauss despite his attacks on Frank Tipler, because Larry Krauss also concedes the possibility of faster than light travel. No which among us, are going to turn down Star Trek? -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To:

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-25 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:28:40AM -0400, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: If you sample the Geiger counter every second, and ask the question has an electron triggered the counter in the previous second, one gets a sequence

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-25 Thread Bruce Kellett
I am with you that generally Krauss does a good job of popularizations of cosmology and so on. He is generally quite careful and accurate in his book A Universe from Nothing, except on page 166, where he says There is one universe in which the total energy is definitely and precisely zero