On 07 Apr 2015, at 04:36, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
To be more precise, I should explain you how computations and
emulation is defined in arithmetic, in term of the truth of
elementary number theoretical
On 07 Apr 2015, at 04:51, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Bruce Kellett wrote:
You want a dynamic like in physics, a function from time to space,
but in computer science, and to understand the problem here, the
dynamics are given by function from N to
John wrote: 'Scriptures (all of them, from the pre-Hebrew ones to the most
recent ones) are HUMANLY written (published?) and some (e.g. the Quran)
only in ONE *human* language, even prohibiting a translation).'
The Quran, revealed in Arabic, has been translated in several languages,
and even in
On 07 Apr 2015, at 08:47, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:51:30PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
I think that Russell is right when he suggested that even by step
seven your dovetailer has to be running in Platonia, not in a
physical embodiment. This has to do with the fact
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:51:30PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
I think that Russell is right when he suggested that even by step
seven your dovetailer has to be running in Platonia, not in a
physical embodiment. This has to do with the fact that the
dovetailer can never complete. It is
Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:51:30PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
So no conscious moment, even in with a dovetailer in Platonia, can
ever be completely counterfactually correct, because there will
always be related sequences of states that never get to be computed
-- no
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On 07 Apr 2015, at 01:57, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Assuming you're like me, you perceive yourself as a single
entity travelling through time in the forward direction.
You? Mr. John Clark The Moscow Man will perceive a single
On 06 Apr 2015, at 01:22, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Apr 2015, at 00:01, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 04 Apr 2015, at 00:03, Stathis Papaioannou
On Tuesday, 7 April 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 06 Apr 2015, at 01:22, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
I agree that if comp is true then consciousness cannot supervene on
physical activity, for the reasons in the MGA thread.
OK. Thanks for making this clear.
The only
You left out traveling through time in a forward direction.
Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John Clark or
Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man?
Have you ever met anyone who doesn't feel like they are travelling through
time in a forward direction?
many worlds
On 07 Apr 2015, at 15:06, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 April 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 06 Apr 2015, at 01:22, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
I agree that if comp is true then consciousness cannot supervene on
physical activity, for the reasons in the MGA
I know people who do math really well, I am eternally envious. The feudalism
thing is likely correct but beyond this specific discussion. They are winning
and we are not. I add, sigh!
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On Wednesday, April 8, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 07 Apr 2015, at 15:06, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 April 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marc...@ulb.ac.be'); wrote:
On 06 Apr 2015, at 01:22, Stathis Papaioannou
Hi Liz,
The guy was a computer sci dude before he shifted to philosophy. He's a phil
prof at William Patterson University, in New Jersey, the States. He has
downloadable papers at his Ericsteinhart.com website, and is view-able with
short lectures, no longer than 7 minutes on Youtube, usually
On 07 Apr 2015, at 19:35, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John
Clark or Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man?
We have agree that both the W-man and the M-man are the H-man.
Yes but you
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
you feel that you are the same person from day to day and year to
year, even if you know this is an illusion.
How would things be different if this were not an illusion?
You are less the same person compared
On 07 Apr 2015, at 20:19, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
I know people who do math really well, I am eternally envious.
Math is the easiest branch to understand; it needs only works to get
the results of the others. I think Gauss said that, and I agree, but
unfortunately math is
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John Clark or
Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man?
We have agree that both the W-man and the M-man are the H-man.
Yes but you didn't answer my question and the answer is
Samiya, please allow me one (two?) little questions:
-- How can you tell a 'real' interpreter of God's words from a pretender?
-- and I do not only refer to the 'publication' of the entire Script, there
may be VAST differences between practical interpretations of the rightfully
published details,
Liz:
passed on - do you mean survives AS IS? I think whatever is added
incubates into the complexity of the new creature into fitting, not 'as
was' in the mother.
And- I think mitochondria IS a cell within the larger one in symbiotic
life. Chris is most likely right: FROM THE MOTHER only. And it
This book may be of interest to the list.
Brent
Forwarded Message
/there is nothing like having to actually program a model to force you to face
the music/
http://www.amazon.com/Computing-Mind-How-Really-Works/dp/0195320670/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2
Shimon Edelman
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Apologies: MITOCHONDRIUM - I S - and mitochondria -are. JM
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz:
passed on - do you mean survives AS IS? I think whatever is added
incubates into the complexity of the new creature into fitting, not 'as
was' in the
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Subject: Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA
wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes
Apologies: MITOCHONDRIUM - I
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John Clark or
Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man?
Have you ever met anyone who doesn't feel like they are travelling
through time in a forward
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Apr 2015, at 04:51, Bruce Kellett wrote:
I understand what you are claiming, but I do not agree with it. The
primary physical universe certainly exists,
Then computationalism is false. But what are your evidence for a
*primary* physical universe. That is an axiom
For Telmo.
Brent
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Thomas Jefferson is credited with the following sage advice, /“The *central bank is an
institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our
Constitution*. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills
Ha! I can believe that a hypercomputing lobian machine can zip through the
platonic realities that likely exist, but I must say professor Marchal, that
experiencing mathematics at the chalk board, my dendrites do not function as
well as your own. I will say the obvious that my neurological
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Chris,
Hi. It sounds like you might be in computing since you mentioned some
terms like reposited (I've never heard of that in bio!)?
Yeah
More from those crazy mathematicians
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mathematicians-chase-moonshine-s-shadow/
Mathematicians weren’t sure that the monster group actually existed, but
they knew that if it did exist, it acted in special ways in particular
dimensions, the first two of
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