Re: Dreamless Sleep?

On 12/17/2017 9:03 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2017 2:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/7/2017 1:01 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed,

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

On 12/17/2017 8:46 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: I guess you also know my position about this. You are taking an a priori position of what consciousness is, and how it fits reality and just running with it. It is irrelevant here if the human-level AI already exists or not. Knowing how to make

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 12/17/2017 8:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Dec 2017, at 22:19, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/15/2017 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: that the statistics of the observable, in arithmetic from inside, have to "interfere" to make Digital Mechanism making sense in cognitive science, so

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 12/17/2017 7:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:   But in fact the box is not isolated. Oh? Just isolate the whole universe. That should be easy. The box too is interacting with the environment.  So it's like the Zeno effect.  Although there is a probability at each impact of producing a

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 10:28:17 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 15 Dec 2017, at 23:54, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 5:24:39 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: Equivalence Principle and Einstein Field Equations

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:21:27 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2017 2:59 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > There's a problem applying SR in this situation because neither the ground > or orbiting clock is an inertial frame.AG > > > An orbiting clock is in an inertial frame.

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 15 Dec 2017, at 23:54, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 5:24:39 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 14 Dec 2017, at 03:01, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Schrodinger's cat problem; proposed solution

On 16 Dec 2017, at 13:47, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 1:17:09 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Dec 2017, at 06:20, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/14/2017 6:27 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I don't see how Wigner's friend presents a problem for Copenhagen. According

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/8/2017 2:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/7/2017 1:01 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/8/2017 2:09 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 15 Dec 2017, at 22:19, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/15/2017 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: that the statistics of the observable, in arithmetic from inside, have to "interfere" to make Digital Mechanism making sense in cognitive science, so MW-appearances is not bizarre at all: it has

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 15 Dec 2017, at 22:18, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/15/2017 9:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Dec 2017, at 22:23, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/13/2017 3:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The coin does not start in a state of the kind {|heads> + | tails>}, but it starts with a state of

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 15 Dec 2017, at 23:54, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 5:24:39 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2017, at 03:01, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 1:41:37 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 12/13/2017 5:24 PM, agrays...@gmail.com