On 12/17/2017 8:46 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I guess you also know my position about this.
You are taking an a priori position of what consciousness is, and how
it fits reality and just running with it. It is irrelevant here if the
human-level AI already exists or not. Knowing how to make something
happen is not the same thing of understanding how it works.

But we never understand how anything works by your measure.  We understand more.  First, we learned how to make concrete.  Then we learned the chemistry of making and using cement and how it formed concrete.  Then we learned the molecular dynamics of that chemistry.  Recently we learned that sea water in place of fresh water makes concrete last much longer.  But do we understand how those atoms do that?  Maybe we will someday.  But then someone will say, yes but you don't know how quantum field theory works...you just know how to use it.

Brent

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