Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 2:19:58 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:54:01 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:06 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *> they're already here and you refuse to admit this as a possibility* >> >> >> Ah

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:11:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/12/2020 9:56 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > Why is it that in SR a stationary clock appears to advancing at a more > > rapid rate than a moving clock, and vice versa -- so the effect is > > relative or symmetric, not

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 6:12:30 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/13/2020 4:54 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 5:16:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/13/2020 3:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On 10/13/2020 4:54 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 5:16:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 10/13/2020 3:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote: On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 5:16:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/13/2020 3:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 2:26:14 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > I will try to give a definitive answer. > *So regardless of your subsequent corrections, will you now admit, as I was suggesting, that the exact solution can be determined solely by GR, and that Clark's

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On 10/13/2020 3:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote: On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14

Re: Trumps September 27 COVID-19 superspreader event

Brent, just to keep it all real, and I do mean real as in evidence related, allow me to state 2 things please. 1) There are no Billionaire goodguys for the middle class and the funders of both US political parties are Crony Capitalist$. To reinterate, no goodguys among the Globalist$. Know

Has Dark Matter been discovered?

In yesterday's Physical Review Letters an article was published that says Dark Matter *MIGHT* have been discovered in the XENON1T underground detector deep below the Gran Sasso mountain in Italy. The signal is less than the five Sigma needed to claim a discovery but it was strong enough to cause a

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote: > > > On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >>> I will try to give a

Re: Trump's new super spreader event

On Twitter, John, his supporters were talking about the purported, Gay appeal, because of this quote, plus, the playing of the YMCA song.  https://youtu.be/4swzg3NV9tI Aw. c'mon man! Watch it. It'll do your heart good.  Second, you are not mentioning the super spreading events at the democrat

Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

It seems like, having a very advanced interstellar species studying us, is just too good to be true. I will hold. that it a software glitch, or some anaomalous thing, like a speck of seagul poo hanging on to a camera lens/screen/semiconductor (whatever the mil tech is?). Last, would not The

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: I will try to give a definitive answer. The Schwarzschild metric is

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > >> I will try to give a definitive answer. The Schwarzschild metric is >> >> ds^2 = c^2(1 – 2m/r)dt^2 – (1 – 2m/r)dr^2 – r^2(dθ^2 – sin^2θdφ^2) >>

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > I will try to give a definitive answer. The Schwarzschild metric is > > ds^2 = c^2(1 – 2m/r)dt^2 – (1 – 2m/r)dr^2 – r^2(dθ^2 – sin^2θdφ^2) > > for m = GM/c^2. For the motion of a satellite in a circular orbit there is >

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

I will try to give a definitive answer. The Schwarzschild metric is ds^2 = c^2(1 – 2m/r)dt^2 – (1 – 2m/r)dr^2 – r^2(dθ^2 – sin^2θdφ^2) for m = GM/c^2. For the motion of a satellite in a circular orbit there is no radial motion so dr = 0. We set this on a plane with θ = π/2 so dθ = 0 and this

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On 10/13/2020 6:18 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: /> How does gravity cause the difference between what the theories predict? AG / There is no contradiction about what the theories predict because Special

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:25:09 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:16:54 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:44:05 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alan Grayson >>> wrote:

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:16:54 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:44:05 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alan Grayson >> wrote: >> >> *> Sorry, but I don't see [...]* >> >> >> I've noticed there are a lot of

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:44:05 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> Sorry, but I don't see [...]* > > > I've noticed there are a lot of things that you just don't see, and you > don't seem to be making any effort to improve

Be very afraid!

The Holy Roller who wants to be on the US Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett, today refused to say that Trump could not unilaterally delay the Nov. 3 election. Instead she waffled and said: *"I would need to hear arguments from the litigants and read the briefs and consult with my law clerks and

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Sorry, but I don't see [...]* I've noticed there are a lot of things that you just don't see, and you don't seem to be making any effort to improve your understanding even when things are carefully explained to you. You just keep asking

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 9:01:55 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:39 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> Note that Clark claims SR is irrelevant to the issue of comparing an >> orbiting clock with a stationary clock on the Earth, * >> > > No, Clark did not make

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:39 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Note that Clark claims SR is irrelevant to the issue of comparing an > orbiting clock with a stationary clock on the Earth, * > No, Clark did not make that claim. Clark claims that in some more complex situations, such as situations where

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:17:37 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:06:30 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> I am not sure why you have endless trouble with this. On the Avoid list >> you repeatedly brought up this question, and in spite of

Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:21:02 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:35:03 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:19:58 AM UTC-5 agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:54:01 AM

Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:35:03 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:19:58 AM UTC-5 agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:54:01 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:06 AM Alan Grayson >>>

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:06:30 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > I am not sure why you have endless trouble with this. On the Avoid list > you repeatedly brought up this question, and in spite of dozens of > explanations you raise this question over and over. You need to read a

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

I am not sure why you have endless trouble with this. On the Avoid list you repeatedly brought up this question, and in spite of dozens of explanations you raise this question over and over. You need to read a text on this. The old Taylor and Wheeler book on SR gives some reasoning on this.

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> How does gravity cause the difference between what the theories predict? > AG * > There is no contradiction about what the theories predict because Special Relativity can make no prediction at all about what a clock will do when it is in a

Re: Trump is on drugs

Am Di, 13. Okt 2020, um 00:15, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/12/2020 2:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> Human minds can ask questions, computers outside of pre-programmed prompts >>> do not. >> >> Untrue. It's quite

Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 1:54:01 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:06 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> they're already here and you refuse to admit this as a possibility* > > > Ah yes, your flying saucer people from Roswell New Mexico that look like > something

Re: Technology fiction versus science fiction (was Trump is on drugs)

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:06 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> they're already here and you refuse to admit this as a possibility* Ah yes, your flying saucer people from Roswell New Mexico that look like something for a grade B 1950s science-fiction movie. > *they haven't had enough time to visit us*

Trump's new super spreader event

At Trump's new super spreader event yesterday he started with a golden oldie from 2016 about how he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall, but then the Covid-19 Patient In Chief then he gave us this new gem: *"I feel so powerful, I'll walk into that audience. I'll walk in there, I'll kiss

Re: Critique of Penrose's claim of a universe before the Big Bang

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:38:55 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 8:37:29 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> After LC > > > *Do all BB theories contain the reheating postulate? AG* > *It's not a hard question, and then we're probably done here. I

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:06:44 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/12/2020 10:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:11:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/12/2020 9:56 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > Why is it that in SR a stationary clock appears

Re: Trump is on drugs

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:15 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Human minds can ask questions, computers outside of pre-programmed > prompts do not. > AlphaZero Can start with no knowledge of Chess, Shogi and Go except for the basic rules which specify which moves

Re: Clock rates; SR v GR

On 10/12/2020 10:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:11:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 10/12/2020 9:56 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > Why is it that in SR a stationary clock appears to advancing at a more > rapid rate than a moving clock, and vice versa