Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Your promotion, is seemingly that scientists cannot  let their emotions prevail in pursuit of studies. Yet, in the 20th century, by evidence and policy the Eugenicists and the Lysenkoist are proven example of emotion and group loyalty (to scientists, science societies), thwarting honest study

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Interesting 2013 paper. I didn't get from the paper whether the authors concluded that this coding is constituted from an emergent feature of the cosmos, given the right conditions? Is it a feature of embedded an emergent program, based on physics that acts on the chemicals, panspermia, Ufo's,

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ah! Much thanks. -Original Message- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million Read Nick Lane's book, "The Vital Question"  and  listen to his address to the Royal

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I would guess that Everett's (Bryce De Witt's, John Wheeler) many worlds may be possible, in the sense that if Oxford's David Deutsch is accurate, then massive computations, once perfected quantum in QC computers and improved; will succeed because their computations occur in 'close by' parallel

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
Am Mi, 20. Jan 2021, um 23:52, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > For Chemistry, specifically biochemistry, we still cannot after 70 years(?) > go beyond the Stanley Miller-Harold Urey experiment to see if the can run a > chemical process that starts with elements and leads to even simple

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
Read Nick Lane's book, "The Vital Question"  and  listen to his address to the Royal Society.  It's online. Brent On 1/20/2021 3:52 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: For Chemistry, specifically biochemistry, we still cannot after 70 years(?) go beyond the Stanley Miller-Harold Urey

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Bruno, I completely agree and will be delighted to be proven wrong, as thus, the new people (basically Obama's people) have a turn again at bat (US baseball reference). QANON, I ignored because they produced nothing useful, Basically, a disinformation campaign, and many of these in the past

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
If, as I have seen, Banks, and media providers, collude to defund people they disagree with, then this is organized censorship. I am thinking mass filings of lawsuits could be salutary. If the administrators of public universities encourage faculty members to urge protest and riot against

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
For Chemistry, specifically biochemistry, we still cannot after 70 years(?) go beyond the Stanley Miller-Harold Urey experiment to see if the can run a chemical process that starts with elements and leads to even simple life. I am not asserting religion here, but what have we missed? This is

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 6:59 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 1/20/2021 3:58 AM, John Clark wrote: > > > Except for its simplicity the most important advantage of many worlds is > that it doesn't have to explain what "measured" means, or what a

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/20/2021 3:58 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:01 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: >> No, there are *NOT*exactly 10 winners! There are an astronomical number to an astronomical power number horses that won that race with only

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/20/2021 12:34 AM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 6:29 pm, Alan Grayson > wrote: On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:08:21 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 4:01 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: On

Re: FW: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote: >Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... > What they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben > Stein (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2021, at 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: > > Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression. > Some universities are like that, with some degree. When I was young, there were some excellent course in philosophy alongside with course which were

RE: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin] Molecular code? In an Evolution qua Trans-speciation model? A code is a very highly 'organized' informational system with a definite purpose. That is not random evolution. A code needs a CODER? Anything to do with any system of real existence, be it alive or dead, has to

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 5:03:15 AM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 10:23 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 6:29 pm, Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Tuesday,

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Qanon uses systematically the confusion between p->q and q->p, like prohibition, but on larger scale. Mark Twain said that a lies has the time to go around the Earth the time Truth put his shoes, and that is true, except that with the technological communications, the lies have the time to go a

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 10:23 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 6:29 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:08:21 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: >>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 4:01

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:01 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> No, there are *NOT* exactly 10 winners! There are an astronomical number >> to an astronomical power number horses that won that race with only a >> submicroscopic difference between them, and there are also an astronomical >> number to an

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 6:29 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > >> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:08:21 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 4:01 pm, Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-20 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 6:29 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:08:21 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 4:01 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 11:46:35 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at