Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 5:22 AM smitra wrote: > On 12-05-2022 00:44, Brent Meeker wrote: > > On 5/11/2022 1:06 PM, smitra wrote: > > > >> There is effective collapse in experiments we do, but the > >> experiments nevertheless demonstrate that the fundamental processes > >> proceed under unitary

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 5:57 AM smitra wrote: > On 12-05-2022 01:36, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:24 AM smitra wrote: > > > >> On 11-05-2022 07:30, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>> Who proved that the universe was finite? > >> > >> If it's infinite, one can focus on only the

Re: Is Artificial Life Conscious?

2022-05-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Since consciousness is a subjective experience, how can one know for sure? LC On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 9:38:52 PM UTC-5 Jason wrote: > Artificial Life such as these organisms: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq_mdJjNRPT11IF4NFyLcIWJ1C0Z3hTAX > ( https://github.com/jasonkresch/bots

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/12/2022 12:08 PM, smitra wrote: On 12-05-2022 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:08 AM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 08:14, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:39 PM Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/10/2022 9:43 PM, smitra wrote: If there are only a finite

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/12/2022 11:42 AM, smitra wrote: All that the experiments demonstrate is that the wave function evolves unitarily between state preparation and measurement. This is most easily accounted for by assuming that the wave function is a purely epistemic vehicle for the time evolution of

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/12/2022 11:27 AM, smitra wrote: On 12-05-2022 00:44, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/11/2022 1:06 PM, smitra wrote: That's complete and audacious question begging.  What you mean by "real" is "modeled within the SE".  There is NOTHING BUT collapse experimentally; every result recorded in

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/12/2022 11:17 AM, smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 23:02, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/11/2022 11:51 AM, smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 07:25, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:11 PM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 06:06, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:56 PM smitra

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread smitra
On 12-05-2022 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:08 AM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 08:14, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:39 PM Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/10/2022 9:43 PM, smitra wrote: If there are only a finite number of states the entire universe

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread smitra
On 12-05-2022 01:36, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:24 AM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 07:30, Bruce Kellett wrote: Who proved that the universe was finite? If it's infinite, one can focus on only the visible part of it. The visible part is only locally defined -- go to

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread smitra
On 12-05-2022 01:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:36 AM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 07:42, Brent Meeker wrote: That's complete and audacious question begging. What you mean by "real" is "modeled within the SE". There is NOTHING BUT collapse experimentally; every result

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread smitra
On 12-05-2022 00:44, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/11/2022 1:06 PM, smitra wrote: That's complete and audacious question begging. What you mean by "real" is "modeled within the SE". There is NOTHING BUT collapse experimentally; every result recorded in every notebook and every tape is evidence of

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-05-12 Thread smitra
On 11-05-2022 23:02, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/11/2022 11:51 AM, smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 07:25, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:11 PM smitra wrote: On 11-05-2022 06:06, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:56 PM smitra wrote: On 09-05-2022 00:34, Bruce

Re: NYTimes.com: Spinal Fluid From Young Mice Sharpened Memories of Older Rodents

2022-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/12/2022 5:05 AM, John Clark wrote: From The New York Times: Spinal Fluid From Young Mice Sharpened Memories of Older Rodents Researchers identified a protein in the fluid that could boost the cognition of aging animals — and might lead to future treatments for people.

NYTimes.com: Spinal Fluid From Young Mice Sharpened Memories of Older Rodents

2022-05-12 Thread John Clark
>From The New York Times: Spinal Fluid From Young Mice Sharpened Memories of Older Rodents Researchers identified a protein in the fluid that could boost the cognition of aging animals — and might lead to future treatments for people.