Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Brent Meeker
On 7/4/2022 7:27 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: [*Philip Benjamin*] Science is about observation, experimentation, rational analysis and logical conclusion. The universe /as is/, is all that can be observed. Scientists have to accept with humility the limitations of finite minds to

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
All self-referentially declared truth. LC On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:22:19 PM UTC-5 Samiya wrote: > Acknowledging the Perfection of our Lord > > No change should there be in the creation of Allah [Quran 30:30] > *Mission of the Messengers >

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
What utter piffle. Your statement about 1 + 1 is ridiculous. The number .9... endlessly repeating is equal to 1. Why? well write this as x = .9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 + ... and then x = .9 + .1( .9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 + ...) = .9 + .1x so then .9x = .9 > x = 1 Don't you have anything

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Brent Meeker
Judaism at least teaches that one should do good because it's a virtue.  No for rewards either in life or afterward. Brent On 7/4/2022 5:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: Acknowledging the Perfection of our Lord No change should there be in the creation of Allah [Quran 30:30] *Mission of

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Samiya Illias
Acknowledging the Perfection of our Lord No change should there be in the creation of Allah [Quran 30:30] Mission of the Messengers - XXIX Abstract To do تَسْبِيحَ of Allah means to acknowledge, declare, and/or celebrate that Allah is absolutely perfect. Allah creates perfectly and

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 4:14 PM Philip Benjamin wrote: *> unlike pagan religions of the world* [blah blah] I don't get it, every post from you is about pagans, but pagans are almost as dull and downright silly as Christians and Muslims. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

2022-07-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
Am Mo, 4. Jul 2022, um 07:43, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > Trumpo bitched at Fraulein Docktor Merkel who was big into Putin and she > didn't have anything to say when I guess the circus is in town but not everyone is a clown. > El Donaldo complained that *"Germany will just end

FW: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Philip Benjamin
Typo: photon, not phone. Philip From: general_the...@googlegroups.com mailto:general_the...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Philip Benjamin Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 3:15 PM everything-list@googlegroups.com

RE: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin] Science is about observation, experimentation, rational analysis and logical conclusion. The universe as is, is all that can be observed. Scientists have to accept with humility the limitations of finite minds to understand and explore the invisible and ponder over what is not

Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

2022-07-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 3:05 PM wrote: > *My only concern is that were election laws violated in 2020 in enough > amount to change the election outcome? Donny has had 18 months to serve the > data up to the populace, and, where's the beef? * There was never anything that even approximated beef!

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You must be true to yourself, and if you are bored shitless, with such speculation of application of the physics we know, so be it! The Hugh Everett thing is so fascinating in itself, that it basically, if there ever a scintilla of evidence, this would itself change civilization and religion

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Understood, LC, but even statistically this'd be a one-off even, maybe 13.7 billion years ago. An event that occurred after trillions or quadrillions of relative terms. Yes, you've cast your physics pearls before this swine, and so be it. So, I will scratch off the BB.  Now if the Smolin

Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

2022-07-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Decreeing an election null and void is not the same as signing an Executive Order decreeing an election null and void and then ordering soldiers to enforce this exec order. My only concern is that were election laws violated in 2020 in enough amount to change the election outcome? Donny has had

The LHC is back

2022-07-04 Thread John Clark
After being off-line for several years to be upgraded the LHC is back and started doing science today. The protons in its beam are at 13.6 trillion electron volts, only a modest increase over what it was before but the proton density will be 20 times what it was when it discovered the Higgs and

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:43 PM Samiya Illias wrote: *> I think a more immediate and useful question is: What is the purpose of > humans (Adam and his progeny)?* According to the religious, the purpose of humanity is to praise God because there is nothing God loves more than an endless 24/7

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
I do not waste my neural energy on these idle speculations. I do not engage in silly ideas of Kardashev civilization types, Dyson spheres, Tipler-like cosmo-eschatology and so forth. I suppose those who have reached some celebrity status can afford to do this, but in the end it is all stuff we

Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

2022-07-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 1:43 AM wrote: > *JC, for El Trumpo, my tears have all dried and I have moved on as we all > must.* > I wish I could stop talking about Trump but I can't because he has not reached room temperature and I;m sure he's going to run again in 2024. And people like you are

Re: Before Big Bang What?

2022-07-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
No Boltzmann brains (BBs). The instability of the de Sitter (dS) vacuum makes the probability for BBs very small. The problem with the BB is that if they exist we may not know whether we are BBs, or that I am a BB and all other people are phantasms of my mind. The problem is that if the dS