Typo: photon, not phone. Philip From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Philip Benjamin Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 3:15 PM [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Before Big Bang What? [Philip Benjamin] Science is about observation, experimentation, rational analysis and logical conclusion. The universe as is, is all that can be observed. Scientists have to accept with humility the limitations of finite minds to understand and explore the invisible and ponder over what is not subject to sense perceptions. Let the philosophers do that. Theology, unlike pagan religions of the world, is about the REVELATIONS from the Theos. The Scriptures of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles make unique claim that they are direct REVELATIONS from Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural). [Abraham was a PAGAN worshipping his own family deities. Only one man/woman in only one nation in one region of the world can be chosen to bring forth the ONE final REVELATION. Here the claim of the Scriptures of the Prophets & Apostles is that the Almighty is mighty enough to be a human zygote planted in a womb (virgin to be clear on the identity) to bring forth the divine in human form (at a particular place Bethlehem as promised aforetime), for the precise purpose of cancelling the universal Death Sentence (entropy) necessarily imposed on the universe by the vicarious death of the Sentencer followed by Resurrection. Now that is the crux of Mosaic sacrifices (types) and Messianic crucifixion (anti-type). That is the crux of revelatory Theology also. That does not belong to science, but it belongs to scientists also in the same way as it is to ALL-men and women alike. . If it is untrue, it does not matter. If it is true, nothing else should matter. 1 + 1 = 2 is the only truth, but 1 + 1 = 2.0000000....to the nth decimal place is only one of infinite lies possible. Leave that alone. Science has enough and more to meddle with the observable universe. It cannot even define what a phone is!! It can only experiment with it or on it. Incorrigible pride thy name is human heart! Philip Benjamin
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 9:20 AM To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Before Big Bang What? On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:43 PM Samiya Illias <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I think a more immediate and useful question is: What is the purpose of > humans (Adam and his progeny)? According to the religious, the purpose of humanity is to praise God because there is nothing God loves more than an endless 24/7 stream of uninterrupted flattery. To my mind that makes God seem like a small minded little twit, I'd expect something a bit less mundane from an omniscient omnipotent being who created the universe, however even if it's true it leaves open one question, does God ever ask Himself what His purpose is? John K Clark . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Consciousness-Online" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/general_theory/SJ0PR14MB52642237E97D2A11ED5C5E31A8BE9%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fgeneral_theory%2FSJ0PR14MB52642237E97D2A11ED5C5E31A8BE9%2540SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7295a5702d94e35514308da5df9da29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637925624931580794%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hpiJHuj4OimUjnUCIjiqEMELfaCkul9N365lZXSLls8%3D&reserved=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SJ0PR14MB526490F56A55721BC74AECEEA8BE9%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.
