RE: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-18 Thread chris peck
Hi Chris Increasingly code is the result of genetic algorithms being run over many generations of Darwinian selection -- is this programmed code? What human hand wrote it? At how many removes? In evolutionary computations the 'programmer' has control over the fitness function which ultimately

RE: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-18 Thread Chris de Morsella
Brent - Quite probably you are correct and I agree that the scenario I outlined was unlikely - I was riffing on a speculative vein, I don't actually think covert AI is a likely scenario because as you said various AI precursors would make themselves visible to human operators and analysts.

Re: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-18 Thread meekerdb
On 8/18/2013 7:51 PM, chris peck wrote: Hi Chris Increasingly code is the result of genetic algorithms being run over many generations of Darwinian selection -- is this programmed code? What human hand wrote it? At how many removes? In evolutionary computations the 'programmer' has control

RE: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-17 Thread Chris de Morsella
I doubt humans are or will be directly coding AI, except at removed executive/architectural and conceptual levels. Increasingly code itself is being generated by other code that in fact may itself potentially be generated by other code in some other often complex and variable sequence of coupled

Re: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-17 Thread meekerdb
On 8/17/2013 4:53 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: We must not limit the rise of AI to any single geo-located system and ignore just how fertile of an ecosystem the global networked world of machines and connected devices provides for a nimble highly virtualized AI that exist in no place at any