On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Craig Weinberg
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>> The universe is algorithmic insofar as a small number of physical rules
>> gives rise to everything that we see around us.
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> Only if we infer that is the case. Physical rules don't give rise to
> anything, especially beings which exp
OK, This post is clearer. forget my early reply.
On 16 Oct 2012, at 15:55, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/11 Bruno Marchal
On 10 Oct 2012, at 20:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t
The quote might be wrong, as you answer statements which are not mine.
On 16 Oct 2012, at 15:49, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/10 Alberto G. Corona
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
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> On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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>> It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
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>> The same
2012/10/11 Bruno Marchal
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> On 10 Oct 2012, at 20:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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> 2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
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>>> On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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>>> It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is
2012/10/10 Alberto G. Corona
> 2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
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> > On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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> >> It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
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> >> The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
> >> zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I ha
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> > if you could tell me how to determine if a computer has intelligence
The same way I determine if one of my fellow human beings is intelligent,
if he beats me at a intellectual task then he's intelligent, in fact he's
more intelligent tha
t; -Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: I believe that comp's requirement is one of "as if" rather
than"is"
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
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> > Comp seems to avoid this insurmountable problem by avoiding the issue of
> whether the computer actually had an experience, only that it appeared to
> have an experience. So comp's requirement is "as if" rather than "is".
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In other word
On 10 Oct 2012, at 20:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is
made of
zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal :
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> On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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>> It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
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>> The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
>> zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief in
>> the conventional th
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief in
the conventional thing. Maybe it is, because otherwise, I wi
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief in
the conventional thing. Maybe it is, because otherwise, I will act
in strange and self destructive ways. I would ac
On 09 Oct 2012, at 13:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
But still after this reasoning, I doubt that the self conscious
philosopher robot have the kind of thing, call it a soul, that I have.
?
You mean it is a zombie?
I can't conceive consciousness without a soul. Even if only the
universal
On 09 Oct 2012, at 11:50, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Alberto G. Corona and Bruno,
Perhaps I can express the problem of solipsism as this.
To have a mind means that one can experience.
Hmm... Not really, with "my terminology". A mind is not enough for an
experience. You need a soul. It is a fi
That is true. To pressupose an experience of self in others is a leap
on faith based on similarity. It is duck philosophy. What seems a
Duck, must be a Duck. Even Hume had to limit its destructive
philosophy to avoid self destructiveness. Because there are core
beliefs that we don´t doubt, or we
Hi Alberto G. Corona and Bruno,
Perhaps I can express the problem of solipsism as this.
To have a mind means that one can experience.
Experiences are subjective and thus cannot be actually shared,
the best one can do is share a description of the experience.
If one cannot actually share another's
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