Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread meekerdb
On 4/26/2015 4:59 PM, John Clark wrote: I wonder how a intelligent conscious being would react if it had full access to its emotional control panel. Regardless of how well our life is going who among us would for eternity opt out of becoming just a little bit happier if all it took was turning a

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > This makes it even more important that we don’t blow it on our own little > world. Or perhaps it is evidence that *we are going to blow it* just like > every other species has on every other s

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread meekerdb
On 4/26/2015 1:18 AM, LizR wrote: On 26 April 2015 at 13:07, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: Nonsense. He was in poor health and he had long suffered drastic swings in mood. Today he would be diagnosed as bipolar. He also had reason to be depressed because his idea

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The reasons are wherever. Just hear depressed people or last writings of suicide people. There are many other social adaptations like this. for example the wite of the eyes. b But at the level of depression or suicide, moral feelings like for example the self remorse when we do something bad to ot

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread LizR
On 26 April 2015 at 19:43, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > What happens with the (unconscious) nominalists is that you fight the > details while ignoring the categories. I have the least interest in > discussing the life of Boltzmann or anyone. What is important for me is to > stress that suicide and

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread LizR
On 26 April 2015 at 13:07, meekerdb wrote: > Nonsense. He was in poor health and he had long suffered drastic swings > in mood. Today he would be diagnosed as bipolar. He also had reason to > be depressed because his ideas were rejected on the Continent. They were > considered crazy because

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread Alberto G. Corona
What happens with the (unconscious) nominalists is that you fight the details while ignoring the categories. I have the least interest in discussing the life of Boltzmann or anyone. What is important for me is to stress that suicide and depression is a form of social apoptosis. 2015-04-26 3:07 GMT

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-26 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Uncertainty is not the same than the certainty of obliteration, as Boltzmann I suppose that he felt. Freemann Dyson tried to overcome the Boltzmannian conclussions not for a intellectual exercise, but as a serious treat to the vital perspectives of people here and now. Uncertainty is not depressin

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-25 Thread meekerdb
On 4/20/2015 3:51 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: / once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning./ If it works for them why is it your problem? That is why modern people put his life at risk in extreme sports and so on: short term risk evade from existential vacuum. 2015-04-20 1

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-23 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may > preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. > Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of > termodinamical dead of the uni

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
st sneers onward. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 6:50 am Subject: Re: Where are they? The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
* once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning.* That is why modern people put his life at risk in extreme sports and so on: short term risk evade from existential vacuum. 2015-04-20 12:49 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona : > The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion yea

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of termodinamical dead of the universe more or less. Other people are influenced equally hard, but un

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-19 Thread LizR
In my opinion extensive Dysonisation will only occur later in the stelliferous era - in the 100 trillion years when the galaxy (and the few others still visible in the far distance) glow rose-red from having a population exclusively made of stellar remnants and M class dwarfs. At this point some sp

Re: Where are they?

2015-04-19 Thread LizR
Some colourless green ideas on a similar subject... "we are racing towards a precipice" http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/29706-noam-chomsky-us-responsible-for-qworst-terrorist-campaign-in-the-world-by-farq -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

RE: Where are they?

2015-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR The Fermi paradox gets sharper. http://arxiv.org/abs/1504.03418 This makes it even more important that we don’t blow it on our own little world. Or perhaps it is evidence that *we are go