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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:53 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: everything list note :) On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Mostly lurking here. and have off and on for years Love some of the ideas floating here and the discussions; it can flow fast and furious here. keeping up is like a full-time job lol Recently from time to time I have been poking in; hope you don't mind me; perhaps on occasion I can bring a perspective. Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity Vibration - perhaps is -- the motive enabler of operations, which are the actors on values in all equations. What is vibration, if not music? Numbers relating to numbers, made of numbers, which are made of numbers, etc. with some numbers relating to this through what they've called hearing in some language, perhaps. But I don't want to blah anybody on this. The score I am currently analyzing, eventually to translate these kinds of harmonies onto the guitar (hopefully ;-)), is currently listenable in the link that follows. Nobody has to keep their eyes open, unless you're following the score for technical reasons. It's one of the Bach Cantatas. The title of which translates to Wake up, calls out to us, the voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sj-NKqR0tw In hopes that just one person effin lays themselves down with eyes closed, and permits a few minutes of this gorgeous wash of sound to inform every fiber of their being, without doing other things. Reducing the world to just one unnecessary distraction for once; at least for 7 minutes. PGC :-) As you say. reducing the world of distraction; perhaps also expressed as quieting the mind, so that it may hear. Beautiful piece of music as well; a soaring escape from the contemporary for me, which is where I root musically. Ahhh this mysterious vibration. this inner agitator of being, what is it where is it? Hard to pin down eh? What is the observer? Why is it a given that we exist at all? What if our certainty of self is but a splendid illusion. When we speak of self; we infer identity, separateness, a dichotomy between - that which we perceive as self - and the universe the self observes. A lot of the spiritual traditions. and the psychedelic experience. and perhaps some empirical evidence as well allude to an un-nameable, ineffable un-seeable yet manifest something. The Vibe! What if the universe is a symphony written large and the multiverse a veritable panoply of musical styles and compositions. Hehe. please take all this in the light hearted spirit in which it is given (some might say spewed) I have tripped more and further than most.. music can sometimes on occasion, especially when I sing bring me to a state of exceptional being and presence and clarity of moment in moment. the idea of vibration animating and being all does not seem all that weird or strange to me. and the tie in to math is so elegant. harmony is math; music is about sets. The physics of music gets right into the physics of waves and we all know that goes deep. You could say it is the essential metaphor I prefer. we all have our metaphors and notional constructs that support our beings and our sense of our own selves. This is one I can rock on, and being a rocker it's not surprising that it rocks me. Give it away; it's free! (cryptic) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: everything list note :)
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote: Mostly lurking here… and have off and on for years Love some of the ideas floating here and the discussions; it can flow fast and furious here… keeping up is like a full-time job lol Recently from time to time I have been poking in; hope you don’t mind me; perhaps on occasion I can bring a perspective. Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity Vibration – perhaps is -- the motive enabler of operations, which are the actors on values in all equations. What is vibration, if not music? Numbers relating to numbers, made of numbers, which are made of numbers, etc. with some numbers relating to this through what they've called hearing in some language, perhaps. But I don't want to blah anybody on this. The score I am currently analyzing, eventually to translate these kinds of harmonies onto the guitar (hopefully ;-)), is currently listenable in the link that follows. Nobody has to keep their eyes open, unless you're following the score for technical reasons. It's one of the Bach Cantatas. The title of which translates to Wake up, calls out to us, the voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sj-NKqR0tw In hopes that just one person effin lays themselves down with eyes closed, and permits a few minutes of this gorgeous wash of sound to inform every fiber of their being, without doing other things. Reducing the world to just one unnecessary distraction for once; at least for 7 minutes. PGC :-) Ahhh this mysterious vibration… this inner agitator of being, what is it where is it? Hard to pin down eh? What is the observer? Why is it a given that we exist at all? What if our certainty of self is but a splendid illusion. When we speak of self; we infer identity, separateness, a dichotomy between – that which we perceive as self – and the universe the self observes. A lot of the spiritual traditions… and the psychedelic experience… and perhaps some empirical evidence as well allude to an un-nameable, ineffable un-seeable yet manifest something. The Vibe! What if the universe is a symphony written large and the multiverse a veritable panoply of musical styles and compositions. Hehe… please take all this in the light hearted spirit in which it is given (some might say spewed) I have tripped more and further than most.. music can sometimes on occasion, especially when I sing bring me to a state of exceptional being and presence and clarity of moment in moment… the idea of vibration animating and being all does not seem all that weird or strange to me… and the tie in to math is so elegant… harmony is math; music is about sets. The physics of music gets right into the physics of waves and we all know that goes deep. You could say it is the essential metaphor I prefer… we all have our metaphors and notional constructs that support our beings and our sense of our own selves. This is one I can rock on, and being a rocker it’s not surprising that it rocks me. Give it away; it’s free! (cryptic) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: everything list note :)
Mostly lurking here. and have off and on for years Love some of the ideas floating here and the discussions; it can flow fast and furious here. keeping up is like a full-time job lol Recently from time to time I have been poking in; hope you don't mind me; perhaps on occasion I can bring a perspective. Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity Vibration - perhaps is -- the motive enabler of operations, which are the actors on values in all equations. What is vibration, if not music? Ahhh this mysterious vibration. this inner agitator of being, what is it where is it? Hard to pin down eh? What is the observer? Why is it a given that we exist at all? What if our certainty of self is but a splendid illusion. When we speak of self; we infer identity, separateness, a dichotomy between - that which we perceive as self - and the universe the self observes. A lot of the spiritual traditions. and the psychedelic experience. and perhaps some empirical evidence as well allude to an un-nameable, ineffable un-seeable yet manifest something. The Vibe! What if the universe is a symphony written large and the multiverse a veritable panoply of musical styles and compositions. Hehe. please take all this in the light hearted spirit in which it is given (some might say spewed) I have tripped more and further than most.. music can sometimes on occasion, especially when I sing bring me to a state of exceptional being and presence and clarity of moment in moment. the idea of vibration animating and being all does not seem all that weird or strange to me. and the tie in to math is so elegant. harmony is math; music is about sets. The physics of music gets right into the physics of waves and we all know that goes deep. You could say it is the essential metaphor I prefer. we all have our metaphors and notional constructs that support our beings and our sense of our own selves. This is one I can rock on, and being a rocker it's not surprising that it rocks me. Give it away; it's free! (cryptic) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: everything list note :)
Chris, Yes, that's my concept of what I call the Uni-Verse! It's certainly a valid way of looking at reality. If everything is pure abstract information continually being computed that information can be taken as music in which case the entire Uni-Verse is playing music, or rather IS music playing. One huge symphony with myriads of local subthemes all in a harmony that certainly qualifies as divine if anything does. Truly the music of the spheres! Edgar On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:10:50 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: Mostly lurking here… and have off and on for years Love some of the ideas floating here and the discussions; it can flow fast and furious here… keeping up is like a full-time job lol Recently from time to time I have been poking in; hope you don’t mind me; perhaps on occasion I can bring a perspective. Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity Vibration – perhaps is -- the motive enabler of operations, which are the actors on values in all equations. What is vibration, if not music? Ahhh this mysterious vibration… this inner agitator of being, what is it where is it? Hard to pin down eh? What is the observer? Why is it a given that we exist at all? What if our certainty of self is but a splendid illusion. When we speak of self; we infer identity, separateness, a dichotomy between – that which we perceive as self – and the universe the self observes. A lot of the spiritual traditions… and the psychedelic experience… and perhaps some empirical evidence as well allude to an un-nameable, ineffable un-seeable yet manifest something. The Vibe! What if the universe is a symphony written large and the multiverse a veritable panoply of musical styles and compositions. Hehe… please take all this in the light hearted spirit in which it is given (some might say spewed) I have tripped more and further than most.. music can sometimes on occasion, especially when I sing bring me to a state of exceptional being and presence and clarity of moment in moment… the idea of vibration animating and being all does not seem all that weird or strange to me… and the tie in to math is so elegant… harmony is math; music is about sets. The physics of music gets right into the physics of waves and we all know that goes deep. You could say it is the essential metaphor I prefer… we all have our metaphors and notional constructs that support our beings and our sense of our own selves. This is one I can rock on, and being a rocker it’s not surprising that it rocks me. Give it away; it’s free! (cryptic) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: everything list note :)
At least the music metaphor has aesthetic appreciation, performance, and an audience. Information/computation has none of those things unless we arbitrarily add them. Craig On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:10:50 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: Mostly lurking here… and have off and on for years Love some of the ideas floating here and the discussions; it can flow fast and furious here… keeping up is like a full-time job lol Recently from time to time I have been poking in; hope you don’t mind me; perhaps on occasion I can bring a perspective. Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity Vibration – perhaps is -- the motive enabler of operations, which are the actors on values in all equations. What is vibration, if not music? Ahhh this mysterious vibration… this inner agitator of being, what is it where is it? Hard to pin down eh? What is the observer? Why is it a given that we exist at all? What if our certainty of self is but a splendid illusion. When we speak of self; we infer identity, separateness, a dichotomy between – that which we perceive as self – and the universe the self observes. A lot of the spiritual traditions… and the psychedelic experience… and perhaps some empirical evidence as well allude to an un-nameable, ineffable un-seeable yet manifest something. The Vibe! What if the universe is a symphony written large and the multiverse a veritable panoply of musical styles and compositions. Hehe… please take all this in the light hearted spirit in which it is given (some might say spewed) I have tripped more and further than most.. music can sometimes on occasion, especially when I sing bring me to a state of exceptional being and presence and clarity of moment in moment… the idea of vibration animating and being all does not seem all that weird or strange to me… and the tie in to math is so elegant… harmony is math; music is about sets. The physics of music gets right into the physics of waves and we all know that goes deep. You could say it is the essential metaphor I prefer… we all have our metaphors and notional constructs that support our beings and our sense of our own selves. This is one I can rock on, and being a rocker it’s not surprising that it rocks me. Give it away; it’s free! (cryptic) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: everything list note :)
On 17 January 2014 22:10, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity That would certainly fit in with string theory (although I think the percussion and wind theories have something going for them, too - and even the newfangled idea that the universe was gently waved into being by the Great Theramin.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: everything list note :)
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 3:06 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: everything list note :) On 17 January 2014 22:10, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity That would certainly fit in with string theory (although I think the percussion and wind theories have something going for them, too - and even the newfangled idea that the universe was gently waved into being by the Great Theramin.) Or perhaps drawn into being riding along the mystic drone of a didgeridoo :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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On 18 January 2014 12:27, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 3:06 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: everything list note :) On 17 January 2014 22:10, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity That would certainly fit in with string theory (although I think the percussion and wind theories have something going for them, too - and even the newfangled idea that the universe was gently waved into being by the Great Theramin.) Or perhaps drawn into being riding along the mystic drone of a didgeridoo :) As a Kiwi I feel duty bound to oppose the Digeridoo heresy with every fibre of my being! On the other hand, there is the minimalist Causal Dynamical Triangle theory... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: everything list note :)
On 17 January 2014 22:10, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally I think the cosmos is a musical entity even more profoundly than it is a mathematical entity That would certainly fit in with string theory (although I think the percussion and wind theories have something going for them, too - and even the newfangled idea that the universe was gently waved into being by the Great Theramin.) Or perhaps drawn into being riding along the mystic drone of a didgeridoo :) As a Kiwi I feel duty bound to oppose the Digeridoo heresy with every fibre of my being! On the other hand, there is the minimalist Causal Dynamical Triangle theory... I can certainly understand and appreciate your sense of being duty bound. Had not read about this Theory, but your mention got me looking at this link: http://www.thephysicsmill.com/2013/10/13/causal-dynamical-triangulations/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
