Re: [SPAM] Re: God has no name

2012-08-13 Thread meekerdb
On 8/13/2012 7:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The infinite tape is only a rather misleading pedagogical folklore. Example of universal "number" are brain, computer, programming language interpreters, etc. Universal pattern in the game of life are finite pattern. The infinite tape here is the infi

Re: [SPAM] Re: God has no name

2012-08-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Aug 2012, at 06:42, meekerdb wrote: On 8/12/2012 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Let phi_i be an enumeration of the (partial) computable function. u is universal if phi_u(x, y) = phi_x(y). (x,y) = some number code for the couple (x, y) So can y be some number code for a pair (a,b)

Re: [SPAM] Re: God has no name

2012-08-12 Thread meekerdb
On 8/12/2012 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Let phi_i be an enumeration of the (partial) computable function. u is universal if phi_u(x, y) = phi_x(y). (x,y) = some number code for the couple (x, y) So can y be some number code for a pair (a,b) and b a code for a pair (c,d),...? Brent So

Re: God has no name

2012-08-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
solution, like consciousness, for example. Bruno Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/7/2012 Is life a cause/effect activity ? If so, what is the cause agent ? - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-07, 05:37:56 Subject: Re: God has no na

Re: God has no name

2012-08-10 Thread Stephen P. King
"You live by symbols. You have made up names for everything you see. Each one becomes a separate entity, identified by its own name. By this you carve it out of unity. By this you designate its special attributes, and set it off from other things by emphasizing space surrounding it. This space

Re: God has no name

2012-08-10 Thread Brian Tenneson
gt; or you will go to hell". > > God is more a project or a hope for an explanation. It cannot be an > explanation itself. For a scientist: it is more a problem than a solution, > like consciousness, for example. > > Bruno > > > > > > > Roger , rclo...@verizo

Re: God has no name

2012-08-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
effect activity ? If so, what is the cause agent ? - Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-07, 05:37:56 Subject: Re: God has no name Hi Stephen, On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that a

Re: Re: God has no name

2012-08-09 Thread Roger
the cause agent ? - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-07, 05:37:56 Subject: Re: God has no name Hi Stephen, On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that actually thinks that G

Re: God has no name

2012-08-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Aug 2012, at 21:03, Stephen P. King wrote: On 8/7/2012 5:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Stephen, On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that actually thinks that God is a person, could be a person, or is the complement (anti) of such

Re: God has no name

2012-08-07 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/7/2012 5:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Stephen, On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that actually thinks that God is a person, could be a person, or is the complement (anti) of such, has truly not thought through the implications of s

Re: God has no name

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Stephen, On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that actually thinks that God is a person, could be a person, or is the complement (anti) of such, has truly not thought through the implications of such. [BM For me, and comp, it is an ope

Re: God has no name

2012-08-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 06.08.2012 19:29 Stephen P. King said the following: On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ... ? Why? It's not complicated! A person must be, at least, nameable. A person has always has a name. [BM] Why? Because names are necessary for persistent distinguishability. Let u

Re: God has no name

2012-08-06 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/6/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: [SPK] Which is the definition I use. Any one that actually thinks that God is a person, could be a person, or is the complement (anti) of such, has truly not thought through the implications of such. [BM For me, and comp, it is an open problem. [SPK]