Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-09 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Alberto G. Corona Leibniz, being an Idealist, took the monads and ideas to be real, the physical world to be phenomenol, but not an illusion. You could still stub your toe. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/9/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen --

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Stephen P. King > > Processes still have to have overall coordination to prevent > collisions, keep oil and water separate. > No they don't. The separation of oil and water is just the macroscopic outcome of local interactions between mol

Re: Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 12/8/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-12-08, 08:20:14 > Subject: Re: Re: The two wron

Re: Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Roger Clough
8:20:14 Subject: Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science Roger, BECs make that interaction possible. Don't you ever rad my posts? Richard On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Bruno Marchal said > > "They are logically "interacting" t

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger, BECs make that interaction possible. Don't you ever rad my posts? Richard On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Bruno Marchal said > > "They are logically "interacting" though." > > Right. Which is only possible if both mind and body (brain) are > treated as mind, which is

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Roger Clough
Bruno Marchal said "They are logically "interacting" though." Right. Which is only possible if both mind and body (brain) are treated as mind, which is what L did with his monads. Materialism treats them both as body, which is nonsensical. So L's solution to the mind/brain problem (Chalmer's "H

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-08 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Processes still have to have overall coordination to prevent collisions, keep oil and water separate. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/8/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-07 Thread Roger Clough
Hi ya'll , String theory is outside of spacetime but strings, if they exist, must exist in spacetime. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/7/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Telmo Menezes Receiv

Re: Re: The two wrong paths of modern cognitive science

2012-12-07 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen, I think that's just more materialist wishful thinking, because mind and body are completely different substances, no matter what your philosophy or science, and cannot interact. The failure to solve the "hard problem" shows that. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/7/2012 "For