Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Stathis, If you answer better your own question than me, I will lose my job here :-) You put your finger on the very reason why "primary matter" is incompatible with computationalism. Concreteness can make histories singular only by adding actual infinities into it. Then from inside we have t

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error (was: rep: rep: the meaning of life)

2007-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : > > > > On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit : >> >> >> >>> Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Also, nobody has proved the existence of a primitive physical universe. >> >>> Or of a PlatoniaCall it

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-janv.-07, à 18:19, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : >> >> >> >>> OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the >>> "illusion" of their continuity may be provided by the continuity of >>> their underpin

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Le 29-janv.-07, à 18:19, Brent Meeker a écrit : > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : >>> >>> >>> OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the "illusion" of their continuity may be provided by the con

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : > >> >> >> On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit : >>> >>> >>> Bruno Marchal wrote: > Also, nobody has proved the existence of a primitive physical > universe.

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Quentin Anciaux
On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:28:07 Brent Meeker wrote: > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : > >> On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit : > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Also, nobody has proved the exi

RE: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Jef Allbright
Brent Meeker wrote: > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Where is the universe? > > Here. > And here (in this machine) too, of course. I thought I would just pop in and also say that I very much appreciated your recent post, Brent, where you made some very good points including the one about amoebas ha

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: > On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:28:07 Brent Meeker wrote: >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit : >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Also,

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Quentin Anciaux
On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:34:41 Brent Meeker wrote: > Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:28:07 Brent Meeker wrote: > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : > On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 23-jan

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: > On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:34:41 Brent Meeker wrote: >> Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:28:07 Brent Meeker wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: > Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : >> On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-01 Thread Quentin Anciaux
On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:34:41 Brent Meeker wrote: > Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:28:07 Brent Meeker wrote: > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit : > On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 23-jan

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-01 Thread Jason
On Feb 1, 11:46 am, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Le 29-janv.-07, à 18:19, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the > >>

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > Le 29-janv.-07, à 18:19, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : > >>> > >>> > >>> > OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the > "illusion" o