Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 28 February 2010 17:38, Rex Allen wrote: >> People believe and do all sorts of crazy things, as I'm sure you know. >> The psychological capacity for just about any possible behaviour is >> there, but the very maladaptive behaviours are rare. It's not that >> it's difficult to make an animal th

Re: Definition of universe

2010-02-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Feb 2010, at 18:38, David Nyman wrote: On 8 Feb, 14:12, Bruno Marchal wrote: The main problem with Tegmark is that he assumes an implicit identity thesis mind/observer-state which does not work once we assume the computationalist hypothesis, (and thus cannot work with Everett Quantum M

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Feb 2010, at 07:33, Rex Allen wrote: What would the causal mechanism for natural selection be? A "selection field"? "Selection particles"? Spooky "selection at a distance"??? No, it is (mainly) Sex. Selection by individual seduction. On some level. Chatting universal chromosomes

Re: Definition of universe

2010-02-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 February 2010 15:45, Bruno Marchal wrote: > UDA shows that the wave equation (not just the collapse) has to emerge from > a relative state measure on all computational histories. > The schroedinger equation has to be itself the result of the abandon of the > identity thesis. Bruno, I'm sor

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2010 10:33 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Rex Allen wrote: Note that I am not arguing that this particular belief is an impossible belief. What I'm arguing is that evolution doesn't help you one way or the other in deciding...because evol

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2010 10:38 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 28 February 2010 05:33, Rex Allen wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying here. Is it that peoples' beliefs could not be other than what they actually are given initial condition

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
Okay, I think maybe we're getting somewhere! On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On 28 February 2010 17:38, Rex Allen wrote: > >>> People believe and do all sorts of crazy things, as I'm sure you know. >>> The psychological capacity for just about any possible behaviour

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 28 Feb 2010, at 07:33, Rex Allen wrote: > >> What would the causal mechanism for natural selection be?  A >> "selection field"?  "Selection particles"?  Spooky "selection at a >> distance"??? > > > > > No, it is (mainly) Sex. > > Select

Re: R/ASSA query

2010-02-28 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > I think you have to narrow a concept of "explanation"; you seem to confine > it to "causal physical chain at the most fundamental level."  If someone > asked you whether you expected a newly discovered animal species to be one > that ate it's