Re: Was:Singularity - Re: Intelligence

2010-04-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Apr 2010, at 19:07, Brent Meeker wrote: I think intelligence in the context of a particular world requires acting within that world. Humans learn language starting with ostensive definition: (pointing) "There that's a chair. Sit in it. That's what it's for. Move it where you wa

Re: Was:Singularity - Re: Intelligence

2010-04-17 Thread John Mikes
On Apr 15, 11:21 pm, Brent Meeker wrote: > I agree with the above and pushing the idea further has led me to the > conclusion that intelligence is only relative to an environment. If you > consider Hume's argument that induction cannot be justified - yet it is > the basis of all our beliefs - you

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > On 4/15/2010 8:01 PM, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Let's assume that our best scientific theories tell us something >> true about the way the world *really* is, in an ontological sense. >> And further, for simplicity, let's assume a dete

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM, rexallen...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws >> more probable than deceptive ones? For every honest universe it would >> seem possible to have

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread rexallen...@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 4:02 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 16 Apr 2010, at 05:01, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws > > more probable than deceptive ones?  For every honest universe it would > > seem possible to have an infinite number of

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread rexallen...@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Skeletori wrote: > On Apr 16, 6:01 am, "rexallen...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > > What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws > > more probable than deceptive ones?  For every honest universe it would > > seem possible to have an infinite number of dec

Re: The 'no miracles' argument against scientific realism

2010-04-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Apr 2010, at 03:15, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 16, 4:02 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Apr 2010, at 05:01, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote: What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws more probable than deceptive ones? For every honest universe it w