Brain as quantum computer

2010-12-02 Thread ronaldheld
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0205/0205092v8.pdf Bruno(and anyone else) Ronald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: advice needed for Star Trek talk

2010-12-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Nov 2010, at 15:15, ronaldheld wrote: Thanks Jason. Not certain how all of that helps. I will have think more before I answer Bruno. Ronald Ronald, I still don't know if you have a problem with the first steps of the UDA. Or if you

Re: advice needed for Star Trek talk

2010-12-02 Thread ronaldheld
Bruno: I looked at UDA via the SANE paper. I am not certain the the mind is Turing emulatable, but will move onward. Using Star Trek transporter concepts, I can accept steps 1 through 5. Step 6 takes only the mind and sends it to a finite computational device or the entire person into a device sim

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Dec 2010, at 18:48, Pzomby wrote: What if we discover 'curiositon' :) If a ‘curiousaton’ and a beliefiton are ever discovered a biological TOEton may not be far behind. : ) A particle of everything! I'm afraid that for breaking it you will need an accelerator necessarily bigger

Re: advice needed for Star Trek talk

2010-12-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Dec 2010, at 15:51, ronaldheld wrote: Bruno: I looked at UDA via the SANE paper. I am not certain the the mind is Turing emulatable, but will move onward. OK. It is better to say brain instead of mind. The doctor proposes an artificial digital brain, and keep silent on what is the min

Re: Brain as quantum computer

2010-12-02 Thread Jason Resch
Tegmark published a paper which largely refutes the idea that neurons use quantum interference to perform any useful computation: http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/9907009 In short, the brain is far to hot and uncontrolled to maintain decoherence for the time periods involved in neural processes. Th

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-02 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > On 11/27/2010 1:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Rex Allen wrote: >>> >>> Even if you have used some physical system (like a computer) that can >>> be interpreted as executing an algorithm that manipulates bits th