Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Aug 2011, at 21:34, meekerdb wrote: On 8/24/2011 11:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Nu = ((ZUY)^2 + U)^2 + Y ELG^2 + Al = (B - XY)Q^2 Qu = B^(5^60) La + Qu^4 = 1 + LaB^5 Th + 2Z = B^5 L = U + TTh E = Y + MTh N = Q^16 R = [G + EQ^3 + LQ^5 + (2(E - ZLa)(1 + XB^5 + G)^4 + LaB^5 + +

Re: Interesting paper on consciousness, computation and MWI

2011-08-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi David, It looks not so bad :) At first sight it is based on the ASSA (absolute self-samplings, like in the doomsday argument; may be Russell can comment on this). He seems naïve on the identity thesis, but that could be a reduction ad absurdum. The use of classical chaos is interesting,

Re: consciousness

2011-08-25 Thread Alberto G.Corona
On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 05 Jul 2011, at 11:42, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >. > > Are you sure you don't confuse consciousness and conscience. I think   > that solitary primitive animals felt pain, and are thus consciouss   > (although not necessarily self-conscious). > Hi again

Re: consciousness

2011-08-25 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 25, 6:12 am, "Alberto G.Corona" wrote: > On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:> On 05 Jul 2011, > at 11:42, Alberto G.Corona wrote: > >. > > > Are you sure you don't confuse consciousness and conscience. I think   > > that solitary primitive animals felt pain, and are thus consciouss  

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-25 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> Aren't you restricting your notion of >> what is explainable of what your own theory labels explainable with >> its own >> assumptions? > > Yes, but this is due to its TOE aspect: it explains what "explanation" > are, and what we can hope to be 100% explainable, an

Re: consciousness

2011-08-25 Thread meekerdb
On 8/25/2011 3:12 AM, Alberto G.Corona wrote: On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Jul 2011, at 11:42, Alberto G.Corona wrote: . Are you sure you don't confuse consciousness and conscience. I think that solitary primitive animals felt pain, and are thus consciouss (although no

Re: consciousness

2011-08-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Aug 2011, at 12:12, Alberto G.Corona wrote: On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Jul 2011, at 11:42, Alberto G.Corona wrote: . Are you sure you don't confuse consciousness and conscience. I think that solitary primitive animals felt pain, and are thus consciouss (although not

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Aug 2011, at 14:03, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Aren't you restricting your notion of what is explainable of what your own theory labels explainable with its own assumptions? Yes, but this is due to its TOE aspect: it explains what "explanation" are, and what we can hope

Re: Interesting paper on consciousness, computation and MWI

2011-08-25 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi, I have found what I believe is a flaw in the reasoning in the paper. On pages 5-6 we find: " In Section 5, I attempt to apply this reasoning to the case of an infinite lifetime. I find that, on the one hand, in discovering his current moment out of an infinite ensemble of moments, the