Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 25, 7:00 pm, Nick Prince nickmag.pri...@googlemail.com wrote: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation  By the end of the first evolution due to Msg, the infinite bundle of universes has partitioned into two bundles i.e. one bundle of universes that have a Z spin up electron moving upwards

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Oct 2011, at 22:40, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:08:38PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2011, at 04:41, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:14:48PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: So the histories, we're agreed, are uncountable in number, but

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Nick Prince
[NP] QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation By the end of the first evolution due to Msg, the infinite bundle of universes has partitioned into two bundles i.e. one bundle of universes that have a Z spin up electron moving upwards with a neutral detector reading and an alive cat, and another bundle

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Oct 2011, at 05:34, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/25/2011 4:40 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:08:38PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2011, at 04:41, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:14:48PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: So the histories,

Re: Blindsight crushes absent qualia?

2011-10-26 Thread John Mikes
Craig: a redface reply I made it in reverse, when I wrote (and your answer was correct TO THAT): * *(JM: I like such distinction. Problem is: I see only how to realizethe OBJECTIVE existence? we can THINK about it. * * *CW: It may be problematic to put subjectivity in objective

Re: My theory of everything: everything is driven by the potential for transcendence

2011-10-26 Thread benjayk
compscicrackpot wrote: Consciousness is the heuristic of the universal search algorithm. To say that nature is the blind watchmaker is to forget that watchmakers are nature too, evolution has feelings, technological evolution is the conscious phase of evolution which is in acceleration

Re: SINGULARITY SUMMIT 2011, Melbourne Australia

2011-10-26 Thread John Mikes
Dear Colin, I hope the Singularity Conference was a singular success and by now the material is - sort of - sorted. Is there a URL where I can get the main points to? (you may know that I push 90 -am semi paraplegic and a heart patient, no chance to travel. IMO singularity (as I learned in the

Re: Blindsight crushes absent qualia?

2011-10-26 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 26, 3:14 pm, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Craig: a redface reply I made it in reverse, when I wrote (and your answer was correct TO THAT): I DO *NOT* see, how to realize OBJECTIVE existence, because all we can perceive is our subjective absorption, even that adjusted for

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 26, 11:29 am, Nick Prince nickmag.pri...@googlemail.com wrote: [NP] QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation By the end of the first evolution due to Msg, the infinite  bundle of universes has partitioned into two bundles i.e. one bundle of universes that have a Z spin up electron moving

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-26 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/26/2011 12:44 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2011, at 05:34, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/25/2011 4:40 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:08:38PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2011, at 04:41, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:14:48PM

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Nick Prince nickmag.pri...@googlemail.comwrote: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation I’m trying to get a picture of how David Deutsch’s idea of differentiation works – especially in relation to QTI. With a standard treatment it looks as if there might be

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:00:56PM -0700, Nick Prince wrote: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation I’m trying to get a picture of how David Deutsch’s idea of differentiation works – especially in relation to QTI. With a standard treatment it looks as if there might be cul de sacs for a

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 06:58:15PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: Nick, I think such cul de sacs exist only from third person perspectives. E.g., the experimenter's view of what happens to the cat. When considering the perspective from the first person (cat) perspective, there are no cul de

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Jason Resch
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 06:58:15PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: Nick, I think such cul de sacs exist only from third person perspectives. E.g., the experimenter's view of what happens to the cat. When

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread meekerdb
On 10/26/2011 5:10 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:00:56PM -0700, Nick Prince wrote: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation I’m trying to get a picture of how David Deutsch’s idea of differentiation works – especially in relation to QTI. With a standard treatment it

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:02:02PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: I don't think it is possible to define personal discontinuation (death) in terms of a local event or configuration that is setup in some corner of a universe. For instance, if the universe is infinitely big, one could recur