Re: Question about PA and 1p

Hi Stephen, On 13 Jan 2012, at 00:58, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Bruno, On 1/12/2012 1:01 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Jan 2012, at 19:35, acw wrote: On 1/11/2012 19:22, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi, I have a question. Does not the Tennenbaum Theorem prevent the concept of first person p

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote: > I am not entirely sure what you mean by computable numbers (I guess you > mean function). > A computable number is a number that can be approximated by a computable function, and a computable function is a function that can be evaluated with a mechan

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: > We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its Darwinian advantage) There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian advantage so it must be a byproduct of something that does have that virtue, and the obvious candidate is

Re: Question about PA and 1p

On 13 January 2012 17:24, Stephen P. King wrote: > I submit to you that you cannot just ignore the > universals vs. nominal problem and posit by fiat that just because one can > proof the truth of some statement that that statement's existence determines > its properties. Our ability to communica

Re: Question about PA and 1p

On 1/11/2012 19:22, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi, I have a question. Does not the Tennenbaum Theorem prevent the concept of first person plural from having a coherent meaning, since it seems to makes PA unique and singular? In other words, how can multiple copies of PA generate a plurality of first

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its Darwinian advantage) There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian advantage so it must be a byproduct of something that does ha

Re: Question about PA and 1p

Hi David, I do appreciate your remarks and thank you for writing them up and posting them. Let me interleave some comments in reply. On 1/13/2012 1:43 PM, David Nyman wrote: On 13 January 2012 17:24, Stephen P. King wrote: I submit to you that you cannot just ignore the universals vs.

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its Darwinian advantage) There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian advantage so it

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On Jan 13, 3:54 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: > > >>> We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its > >> Darwinian advantage) > > >> There is no way consciousness can have a

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 13.01.2012 22:39 Craig Weinberg said the following: On Jan 13, 3:54 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its Darwinian advantage) There is

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 13.01.2012 22:36 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its Darwinian advantage) There is no way conscio

Ontology and Epistemology

Hi, For those that might be motivated to read what others are writing check out: http://guidetoreality.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html "Should a Russellian be a Panpsychist? Emmett Holman

Re: Question about PA and 1p

Hi Stephen Thanks for responding to my post in such detail. I'll need some time to digest your points, although I'm not at all sure I have the necessary background to grasp all of what you are saying. However, I would just like to remark at this point that my characterisation of the sought-for o

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On 1/13/2012 2:50 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.01.2012 22:36 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its D

Re: Question about PA and 1p

On 1/13/2012 7:29 PM, David Nyman wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for responding to my post in such detail. I'll need some time to digest your points, although I'm not at all sure I have the necessary background to grasp all of what you are saying. However, I would just like to remark at this point t

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On Jan 13, 5:35 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > On 13.01.2012 22:39 Craig Weinberg said the following: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 3:54 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi  wrote: > >> On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following: > > >>> On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote: > > > We can even ascribe it

Re: An analogy for Qualia

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote: > That's the default occidental view. > You've said something like that before and I get the distinct impression that you think occidental people should be ashamed of themselves. I don't. > if it was just genetics, and genetics were just digital, then