Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology'

2013-07-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:43, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2013, at 04:41, meekerdb wrote: On 7/6/2013 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Atheists are usually just slightly more dishonest when talking like if science was on their side, which is a mockery of

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2013, at 07:28, meekerdb wrote: http://www.salon.com/2013/07/06/god_is_not_great_christopher_hitchens_is_not_a_liar/ I love Christopher Hitchens. I agree with many points. He is more an

Revisiting Leibniz's Einstein-like, geometrical concept of gravity

2013-07-08 Thread Roger Clough
http://williameamon.com/?p=382 Leibniz asserted that Newton’s theory of gravity requires a constant miracle of bodies acting on one another at a distance through the void of space. Clarke replied that gravity can be non-mechanical, but still a natural phenomenon: “But the means by which two

A quantum theory of spacetime based on Leibniz's physics

2013-07-08 Thread Roger Clough
A quantum theory of spacetime based on Leibniz's physics http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-physics/ Leibniz, the Idealist 17th century german philosopher, saw the world in suprisingly modern terms: a) Spacetime, since it is infinitely divisible, does not qualify as a substance, since

Re: Which one result in maths has surprised you the most?

2013-07-08 Thread John Clark
I think the fact that e^i*PI +1 = 0 surprises almost everyone when they first hear of it. I was surprised to learn that infinity times infinity is just the same old infinity but 2 to the power of infinity yields a larger infinity, and I was surprised to learn that there is a proof that some things

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread meekerdb
On 7/8/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2013, at 07:28, meekerdb wrote: http://www.salon.com/2013/07/06/god_is_not_great_christopher_hitchens_is_not_a_liar/ I love Christopher Hitchens. I

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/8/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2013, at 07:28, meekerdb wrote:

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jul 2013, at 19:53, meekerdb wrote: On 7/8/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2013, at 07:28, meekerdb wrote:

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread John Mikes
After some million years of 'mental' development this animal arrived at the 'mental' fear. Usurpers exploited it by creating superpowers to target it with assigned intent to help, or destroy. The details were subject to the 'founders' benefit of enslaving the rest of the people into their rule.

Re: Which one result in maths has surprised you the most?

2013-07-08 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: I think the fact that e^i*PI +1 = 0 surprises almost everyone when they first hear of it. This one is very interesting, but the fact that Pi was a poor choice for the constant makes the equation considerably more ugly

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread meekerdb
On 7/8/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/8/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote: On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal

Re: Hitch

2013-07-08 Thread meekerdb
On 7/8/2013 1:03 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We are all believers, and when a machine pretend to be a non believer, it means I know, and she will impose her religion to you, by all means. ?? So when you say comp is just an hypothesis, to be tested like any other scientific theory, you're really

Re: Which one result in maths has surprised you the most?

2013-07-08 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On 07/08/2013 02:16 PM, Jason Resch wrote: This one is very interesting, but the fact that Pi was a poor choice for the constant makes the equation considerably more ugly than it should be. There is a growing movement to usurp the number Pi with the much more important constant 2*Pi (see:

The wrought iron bench

2013-07-08 Thread Roger Clough
The wrought iron bench The night was hot and I could not sleep --- Or perhaps I just had to build the new bench from the kit. The previous one had rusted so, that one day when I sat down, I crashed through to the patio stones below. It was finished. In the morning, after some rain, I went out

Re: computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-08 Thread Jason Resch
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz Computation[edithttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibnizaction=editsection=22 ] Leibniz may have been the first computer scientist and information theorist. [65]

Re: The wrought iron bench

2013-07-08 Thread Kim Jones
It's great. Really enjoyed it. Evokes music, actually. The use of the wrought iron bench seems to indicate faith or something extremely solid like belief. The old belief has become rusted and difficult to remove. The change of bench involves struggle and discomfort but it has been worth it.

Leibniz and nature's harmonic, structured laws of change

2013-07-08 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz and nature's harmonic, structured laws of change Darwin's dangerous idea implied that God was not - Roger Clough needed to produce the rich diversity of life forms we find in nature. According to Darwin, this result has been produced, not ab initio by God, but by the successive random

Leibniz and nature's harmonic, structured laws of change

2013-07-08 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz and evolution's harmonic, DNA-structured laws of change Darwin's dangerous idea implied that God was not - Roger Clough needed to produce the rich diversity of life forms we find in nature. According to Darwin, this result has been produced, not ab initio by God, but by the successive