On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/8/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> On 08 Jul 2013, at 02:45, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>>  On 7/7/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 07 Jul 2013, at 07:28, meekerdb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2013/07/**06/god_is_not_great_**
>>>>> christopher_hitchens_is_not_a_**liar/<http://www.salon.com/2013/07/06/god_is_not_great_christopher_hitchens_is_not_a_liar/>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I love Christopher Hitchens. I agree with many points. He is more an
>>>> anticlerical than an atheist to me ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Everybody called him an atheist.  He called himself an atheist. I think
>>> you just don't like the term.
>>>
>>
>> "atheism" is different in America and in Europa, although I have realized
>> now that some atheists in America might be similar, but not Hitchens. Many
>> people confuse agnosticism and atheism. Some atheists maintains the
>> confusion to hide that they are believers (in "matter" and in the non
>> existence of God).
>>
>
> I don't know any atheists who are shy about their belief that matter
> exists and God doesn't.
>
> Many people, and dictionaries, confuse agnosticism="that whether or not
> God exists is unknown" with agnosticism="that whether or not God exists is
> impossible to know".  I agree with Sam Harris that "atheist" is not a very
> useful appellation because it only describes someone in contrast to
> "theist".  It just means they fail to believe in a God who is a person and
> whose approval one should seek.  As Harris points out we don't invent words
> like awarmist to describe one who fails to believe there is global warming
> or anummerist to describe someone who's not sure about the existence of
> numbers.
>
>
There is the term "Bright", which perhaps better describes someone who
seeks to include only naturalistic explanations in their world-view:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brights_movement

But what would happen if naturalistic explanations lend credence to the
existence of God or gods?

Jason

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