Chris,
I get an empty message here.
Bruno
On 18 Sep 2013, at 17:57, chris peck wrote:
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Subject: Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?
On 18 Sep 2013, at 04:12, chris pe
On 18 Sep 2013, at 19:32, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Name a number relation that does not involve a computation or
some other process!
>It is difference between a number j used as a name for a program,
like in the arithmetical relation phi_j(k) = r,
On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Bruno Marchal
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On 18 Sep 2013, at 11:43, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But maybe it doesn't. At least some week form of solipsism, where
there is in fact only me, but the notion of "I" is extended. No?
I wou
On 18 Sep 2013, at 20:54, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/18/2013 5:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I naturally took an extreme example to make my point.
I do that often too, but here it weakened your point. Everyone
(except Sunday philosopher) agree on 0, and its successor.
Also some serious mathemati
On 18 Sep 2013, at 22:07, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:14:21 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
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Computers don't use symbols.
?
They use physics,
???
You have been less Aristotelian in some other posts.
If I build a computer out of gears, does it use phys
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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But maybe it doesn't. At least some week form of
On 18 Sep 2013, at 22:11, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:26:35 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
Beyond the ambiguities, comp put the physical universe in the gap,
when the gap is modeled by the logic "*" minus the logic not-"*".
Why just the physical universe
Bruno, do you hold Occam a panacea? I hold it an extremely sharp version
for medieval primitive ignorance made as scientific: to disregard the
'total' we don't know and concentrate on the 'known' (knowable?) part only.
Just as the position of conventioal sciences nowadays. The ultimate
Occanism is:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:43:23 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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On Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:55:15 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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As Rolf Landauer said "Computation is physical", all computations must use
energy and generate heat. And what's the difference bet
Also some serious mathematicians are finitists.
The Meaning of Pure Mathematics
Author(s): Jan MycielskiSource: Journal of Philosophical Logic, Vol. 18, No. 3 (Aug.,
1989), pp. 315-320Published by: SpringerStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/30227216 .
Come on! He believes that Platon
Hi Chris,
OK. Thanks for the precisions. I like Popper, for its epistemology
(modulo the chosen vocabulary).,
Yet, he disappointed me on QM, and even more on the mind-body problem,
where he defended the Eccles dualist, and non mechanist, theory.
But at least he tried, and he didn't put the m
On 20 September 2013 05:31, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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Just thought you should know that. On this day in 1893 in New Zealand, the
other half of the adult population got the right to vote. (Who says NZ is
behind the times? ... Apart from almost everybody, I mean?)
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Hi John
>>It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a idea isn't getting anywhere,
>>that is to say if it doesn't produce new interesting ideas, your time would
>>be better spent doing something else.
Whats with this idea that the only good ideas are ones it would take a genius
to realiz
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