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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:10:19 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:31, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum
mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it
On 17 March 2014 13:56, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote:
If there isn't already, there needs to be some fiction about Buddhist
comp-believers trying to escape immortality.
To quote Wikipedia: In Indian religions, the attainment of nirvana is
moksha, liberation from the cycle of
At some point, Pierz, one has to use one's senses. This is part or the
scientific endeavor as well. Observe, record, and measure, hopefully in common
units, milibars, meters, kilograms, parsecs. But one must observe and try to
make sense of things. Just as the oil companies say no, no, no, we
Yes, they do have a paper that eating resources will doom us. They also claimed
that they had proof of Martian life in 1996 that has since been disregarded. I
am guessing that the report had nothing to say about the substitution of
easily, depleted resources being replaced with different
An excellent piece of postmarxist (marxism rephrased as sociological
science) by the church of progressivism.
Unless the budget of the NASA and specially these experts is increased
and a change in global politics and another international bureau of world
engineers is created overcoming
My only doubt is how long it will take to convert this discussion list,
once devoted to science and (some) philosophy, into a pure mambo-jambo
babble of left liberals new agers and ecoloalarmists among others
2014-03-17 16:48 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
An excellent piece
Personally, I am more in fear of nuclear war then I am about environmental
devastation. This is not to say the natural world is not in big trouble because
of human encroachment, but for Maslows hierarchy of needs, my fear is that
humans disappear, and the weeds and rats and insects take over,
Well, to get on track, we would need to assert trade offs, fixes, and
solutions, rather than promote mere complaint. This goes for myself, but few
seem to feel this way. If we want a clean green Earth, then problem solving is
essential. In that attempt to problem solve, we may come up with a
On 16 Mar 2014, at 19:30, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:05:50 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On
On 16 Mar 2014, at 22:26, LizR wrote:
On 17 March 2014 05:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics.
Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me
that QM will
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My only doubt is how long it will take to convert this discussion list, once
devoted to science and (some) philosophy, into a pure mambo-jambo babble of
left liberals new
On Monday, March 17, 2014 12:19:23 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 19:30, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:05:50 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno
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Subject: Re: New NASA study predicts high probability of collapse of
industrial civilization
An excellent piece of
On 16 Mar 2014, at 23:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:38:42 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:26:46 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
At
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:37:39 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 14:10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:40:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 23:09, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
On Monday, March 17, 2014 12:58:44 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 23:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:38:42 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March
On 17 Mar 2014, at 04:45, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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Subject: Re: The Dalai Lama's
On 17 Mar 2014, at 15:10, David Nyman wrote:
On 17 March 2014 13:56, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote:
If there isn't already, there needs to be some fiction about
Buddhist comp-believers trying to escape immortality.
To quote Wikipedia: In Indian religions, the attainment of
On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:50, Craig Weinberg wrote:
If someone said that they were agnostic about God, would I be wrong
in thinking that they do *not* assume God's presence or absence? To
say that you assume comp and are agnostic about it would seem to be
a contradiction.
You have a lot of
On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:50, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I'm mirroring back to you what my impression is of what you say to
me. I say it is obvious that machines are impersonal, cold,
mechanical, and that it is obvious that sophisticated technology can
be developed that will make them seem less
On 17 Mar 2014, at 18:11, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think it needs to be an experience to compute though. In
real life it does need to be an experience, because I think that it
is the experience which underlies all computation and arithmetic
rather than the other way around. In the
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140317125850.htm
First direct evidence of cosmic inflation
Date:
March 17, 2014
Source:
Harvard–Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Summary:
Almost 14 billion years ago, the universe we inhabit burst into existence in an
extraordinary event that
[image: Inline images 1]
Wow. That is so cool, the first (sort-of) direct detection of gravitational
waves, as opposed to infering their existence from binary neutron stars'
orbital decay. (This is kind of parallel to how the neutrino was
discovered, come to think of it.)
That pattern looks so
Inflation appears now to be evidenced
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=hootsuiteutm_campaign=hootsuite
Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL
Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au
Mobile: 0450 963 719
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Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome?
On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:14:00 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote:
Inflation appears now to be evidenced
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=hootsuiteutm_campaign=hootsuite
OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are something
else.)
K
On 18 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Inflation appears now to be evidenced
On Monday, March 17, 2014 2:17:01 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:50, Craig Weinberg wrote:
If someone said that they were agnostic about God, would I be wrong in
thinking that they do *not* assume God's presence or absence? To say that
you assume comp and are
On Monday, March 17, 2014 2:31:32 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Mar 2014, at 18:11, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think it needs to be an experience to compute though. In real life
it does need to be an experience, because I think that it is the experience
which underlies all
On Monday, March 17, 2014 2:18:58 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:50, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I'm mirroring back to you what my impression is of what you say to me. I
say it is obvious that machines are impersonal, cold, mechanical, and that
it is obvious that
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:46:23 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:03, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:24:10 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 13:22, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't feel so much cloaked in the Popperian
On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote:
OK - so I should have written “Gravitational Wave” (Gravity waves are
something else.)
K
Oh, thanks for saying thatI thought they meant gravity waves. Which - I
thought - was a major prediction of Inflation.
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Hi everyone
Below is a URL from one of my posts on the subject of life being inherently
self destructive which I believe it to be. It provides my curent argument
on the subject.
I think such discussion is relevant to the main history of this group's
threads because if life is indeed
Only if you're being very nitpicky...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
I would say in the context of astrophysics or cosmology, everyone should
know what your mean if you say gravity wave (i.e. you mean a
gravitational wave).
And it's shorter to type.
On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2014-05
On 18 March 2014 11:24, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote:
OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are
something else.)
K
Oh, thanks for saying thatI thought they
This is very cool. Gravitational waves and inflation in one feel swoop.
(Well, a 3-year fell swoop.)
On 18 March 2014 12:20, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2014-05
On 18 March 2014 11:24, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC,
You might also like to see Chris de Morsella's post.
I'm not sure how to link to it but the title is First direct evidence of
cosmic inflation
On 18 March 2014 12:21, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
This is very cool. Gravitational waves and inflation in one feel swoop.
(Well, a 3-year fell
On 18 March 2014 05:01, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Well, to get on track, we would need to assert trade offs, fixes, and
solutions, rather than promote mere complaint. This goes for myself, but
few seem to feel this way. If we want a clean green Earth, then problem
solving is essential. In
Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't
worry too much!
On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are
something else.)
K
On 18 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Kim Jones
Mind you BICEP2 is a rubbish acronym.
On 18 March 2014 13:12, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't
worry too much!
On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
OK - so I should have written Gravitational
What's wrong with SPOTS detector (Swirly Pattern On The Sky) ?
:-)
On 18 March 2014 14:11, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Mind you BICEP2 is a rubbish acronym.
On 18 March 2014 13:12, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't
The interesting question is which cosmogony models are ruled out by this. I think it
rules out the d-brane collision models and maybe other string based models.
Brent
On 3/17/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote:
Inline images 1
Wow. That is so cool, the first (sort-of) direct detection of gravitational
On 18 March 2014 14:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
The interesting question is which cosmogony models are ruled out by
this. I think it rules out the d-brane collision models and maybe other
string based models.
That is absolutely the most interesting question. Cosmology is on
On the subject of environmentalists wanting to save the planet even at the
expense of the human race, it's heartening to see the latest missive from
Greenpeace, which starts...
Nobody wants tigers to go extinct, but consider this; *without healthy
forests our own survival may also be under
On Monday, March 17, 2014 11:37:36 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 18 March 2014 05:01, spudb...@aol.com javascript: wrote:
Well, to get on track, we would need to assert trade offs, fixes, and
solutions, rather than promote mere complaint. This goes for myself, but
few seem to feel this way. If
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:43:58 AM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014 11:37:36 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 18 March 2014 05:01, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Well, to get on track, we would need to assert trade offs, fixes, and
solutions, rather than promote mere complaint.
Neat!
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Here is a Stanford video you might like to watch of Andrei Linde hearing the news about
gravity waves. Enjoy.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/17/5518346/first-evidence-gravitational-waves-supports-big-bang-inflation
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