Re: Crystallizing block universe?

2009-12-09 Thread silky
, is the raising of Heisenberg as possibly-contradicted due to this. Though it does seem they say that it's not relevant, given they (claim) it happened in the past. I too am interested in other peoples thoughts ...                                             Ronald -- -- silky http

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-29 Thread silky
is contained when you specify a number of dimensions. 2d? The universe can be a piece of paper. Inyuki http://www.universians.org -- -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 drape experimentation COLDBLOODED, verisimilitude: fragment-mum gloriously

Re: the theory of everything

2010-01-10 Thread silky
. -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 beggary, pertinacity CAD kaddish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

Re: Everything List Survey

2010-01-13 Thread silky
happens that our configuration is higher than dogs, thus we appear more conscious. For this reason I also, obviously, answered that computers can become conscious (and that is to say, can be brought to our level; i.e. we invent ourselves). -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http

on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-17 Thread silky
over it? Over its internals? (i.e. we can easily remove the lines of code that give it the desire to 'live'). But wouldn't, then, the removal of that code be equivelant to killing it? If not, why? Apologies if this is too vague or useless; it's just an idea that has been interesting me. -- silky

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-17 Thread silky
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: I'm not sure if this question is appropriate here, nevertheless, the most direct way to find out is to ask it :) Clearly, creating AI on a computer is a goal, and generally we'll try and implement

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: I'm not sure if this question is appropriate here, nevertheless, the most direct way to find out is to ask

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: It would be my (naive) assumption, that this is arguably trivial to do. We can design a program that has a desire to 'live', as desire to find mates, and otherwise

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: It would be my (naive) assumption, that this is arguably trivial to do. We

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/19 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: It would be my (naive) assumption

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 silky

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/19 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.commailto: meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: silky wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Brent Meeker meeke

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-18 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote: silky wrote: [...] Here we disagree. I don't see (not that I have experience in AI-programming specifically, mind you) how I can write a program and not have the results be deterministic. I wrote it; I know

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-19 Thread silky
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/19 silky michaelsli...@gmail.com: Exactly my point! I'm trying to discover why I wouldn't be so rational there. Would you? Do you think that knowing all there is to know about a cat is unpractical

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-19 Thread silky
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Jan 2010, at 03:28, silky wrote: I don't disagree with you that it would be significantly complicated, I suppose my argument is only that, unlike with a real cat, I - the programmer - know all there is to know

Re: Was:Singularity - Re: Intelligence

2010-04-11 Thread silky
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Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-01 Thread silky
to make predictions, so it's not useful for us as a theory and I don't see it as correct or appropriate to refer to it as such. -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-01 Thread silky
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Brian Tenneson tenn...@gmail.com wrote: We're talking about a mathematical theory about E. What relevance does this comment have? -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Every morning when I wake up, I experience

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-02 Thread silky
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: on 02.01.2011 08:47 silky said the following: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Brian Tennesontenn...@gmail.com wrote: We're talking about a mathematical theory about E. What relevance does this comment have? I would

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-02 Thread silky
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Brian Tenneson tenn...@gmail.com wrote: In the case of a TOE, the model IS reality. Okay, I won't reply further, this has become irrelevant noise. -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Every morning when I wake up

Re: Artificial Intelligence may be far easier than generally thought

2008-09-22 Thread silky
these are all of them. -- noon silky http://www.themonkeynet.com/armada/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe