Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Sep 2016, at 21:25, John Mikes wrote: Bruno wrote: "... related to the Aristotelian idea that what we experience/see/ measure is what is real. ..." I wanted to raise the 'scientific doubt' about "REAL". (An 'idea' cannot be REAL). We may accept it as a condition to work on, make 'sci

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-21 Thread John Mikes
Bruno wrote: "... related to the Aristotelian idea that what we experience/see/measure is what is real. ..." I wanted to raise the 'scientific doubt' about "REAL". (An 'idea' cannot be REAL). We may accept it as a condition to work on, make 'science' out of it, but I doubt if anybody has an accepta

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hello John, On 20 Sep 2016, at 21:02, John Mikes wrote: Dear Bruno, we are still in the anthropocentric/anthropomorphic failure to equate EVERYTHING with our humanbased experience. I am not sure, although what you say might be related to the Aristotelian idea that what we experience/see

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Meh! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMTJDCouKwc and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9bbxNV7QY8 -Original Message- From: John Mikes To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2016 3:02 pm Subject: Re: Conversations Between Trees Dear Bruno, we are still in the anthropocentric

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-20 Thread John Mikes
Dear Bruno, we are still in the anthropocentric/anthropomorphic failure to equate EVERYTHING with our humanbased experience. Organisms without brain-tissue do not exercise brain-functions as we THINK they do occur in our 'head' (guts?) and do not develop similar thoughts to us - the ways we try to

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Sep 2016, at 23:11, Jason Resch wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3792036/Do-trees-brains.html It is my feeling too, and there are many evidences for some form of thought, and I read (where?) that even at the molecular level, there are some biochemical similarity with

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-18 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Probably the trees are saying, "Kill the Mobile! Drop limbs on them, sink our roots into their bloodstream and drink!" What about Day of the Triffids?" -Original Message- From: Evgenii Rudnyi To: Everything List Sent: Sat, Sep 17, 2016 2:50 pm Subject: Re: Conver

Re: Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-17 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
You may also like Gagliano Monica and Grimonprez Mavra, Breaking the Silence—Language and the Making of Meaning in Plants, Ecopsychology. September 2015, 7(3): 145-152. *http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/eco.2015.0023*

Conversations Between Trees

2016-09-16 Thread Jason Resch
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3792036/Do-trees-brains.html Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@google