Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-24 Thread freqflyer07281972
Put down your crack pipe and seek help

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:23:39 AM UTC-4, Stephen Lin wrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic; 
 it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot 
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without 
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means, Try 
 not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact 
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own 
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or 
 where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen


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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-23 Thread Stephen Lin
We all dreams in the mind of God, even, paradoxically, God himself?

On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, not criticizing! 
 This poem seems to express the question more comprehensibly, and I just 
 wanted to see what others think of it? 
 The idea that all is one is interesting, though it is at variance with my 
 belief. But, my belief is faith-based, and therefore not valid for others, I 
 suppose. However, I do believe in interconnectedness  through the fabric of 
 space-time. And that also encourages being nicer to one another :) 
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
 It echoes a thought I've had myself at times, and which if turned into a 
 religion might even make people be nicer to one another - perhaps - namely 
 the idea that there is only one mind, shuffling through every possible life. 
 Of course this is an infinite sequence, and the mind would I guess be 
 something like God, living inside his creation so as to experience it - the 
 universe creating senses with which to perceive itself, or words to that 
 effect.
 
 Or were you after literary criticism?
 
 
 
 On 23 October 2013 15:49, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you think of The Egg? 
 http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html 
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu wrote:
 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic; it 
 has something to do with a supercomputer.
 
 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot attended 
 and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without actually doing 
 it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?
 
 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means, Try 
 not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact that 
 I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own 
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or 
 where you're spposed to do...
 
 Thanks,
 Stephen
 
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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-23 Thread LizR
Sounds like comp with added poetry (not that comp needs added poetry).


On 24 October 2013 02:37, Stephen Lin stephenw...@gmail.com wrote:

 We all dreams in the mind of God, even, paradoxically, God himself?

 On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, not criticizing!
 This poem seems to express the question more comprehensibly, and I just
 wanted to see what others think of it?
 The idea that all is one is interesting, though it is at variance with my
 belief. But, my belief is faith-based, and therefore not valid for others,
 I suppose. However, I do believe in interconnectedness  through the fabric
 of space-time. And that also encourages being nicer to one another :)


 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

 It echoes a thought I've had myself at times, and which if turned into a
 religion might even make people be nicer to one another - perhaps - namely
 the idea that there is only one mind, shuffling through every possible
 life. Of course this is an infinite sequence, and the mind would I guess be
 something like God, living inside his creation so as to experience it - the
 universe creating senses with which to perceive itself, or words to that
 effect.

 Or were you after literary criticism?



 On 23 October 2013 15:49, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you think of The Egg?
 http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.eduwrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is
 on-optic; it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means,
 Try not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or
 where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 22 Oct 2013, at 17:23, Stephen Lin wrote:

Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on- 
optic; it has something to do with a supercomputer.


Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot  
attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han  
without actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?


It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it  
means, Try not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to  
with the fact that I think we converge the same person in the end  
which becomse our own beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose  
track of where we started or where you're spposed to do...


HaHa, yes there is a bit of something like with some consciousness  
state, and it makes sense with comp.


It is a recurring theme on this list, the number of persons: 0?, 1?,  
Many?


There is a part of that problem which is personal.

With comp no need of supercomputer, elementary arithmetic is enough  
(with paper, pencil and coffee or better). We might play with  
supercomputers, but that might only perpetuate the Samsara.


But may be (probably) I completely missed your message, so either  
clarify, or don't mind to much what I say.


Bruno



What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?

And it is this ...
Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably (Aurobindo)



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread LizR
Sounds like a lot of references to something which you either know about or
don't, which isn't necessarily the best way to set up a problem to do with
(for example) philosophy, consciousness or comp. We usually stick with
Alice and Bob. (BTW is that Neo as in The Matrix ?)


On 23 October 2013 05:12, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:


 On 22 Oct 2013, at 17:23, Stephen Lin wrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic;
 it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means, Try
 not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or
 where you're spposed to do...


 HaHa, yes there is a bit of something like with some consciousness state,
 and it makes sense with comp.

 It is a recurring theme on this list, the number of persons: 0?, 1?, Many?

 There is a part of that problem which is personal.

 With comp no need of supercomputer, elementary arithmetic is enough (with
 paper, pencil and coffee or better). We might play with supercomputers, but
 that might only perpetuate the Samsara.

 But may be (probably) I completely missed your message, so either clarify,
 or don't mind to much what I say.

 Bruno



 *What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?*
 **
 *And it is this ...*
 *Existence that multiplied itself*
 *For sheer delight of being*
 *And plunged into numberless trillions of forms*
 *So that it might*
 *Find *
 *Itself*
 *Innumerably (Aurobindo)*



 http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2013/10/22 Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic;
 it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?


I don't understand... Is this supposed to be a cryptic joke ?


 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means, Try
 not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know.


I don't know... I don't think there is something to know in the gibberish
you wrote.

Quentin


 It has to with the fact that I think we converge the same person in the
 end which becomse our own beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track
 of where we started or where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread Samiya Illias
What do you think of The Egg?
http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu wrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic;
 it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means, Try
 not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or
 where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread LizR
It echoes a thought I've had myself at times, and which if turned into a
religion might even make people be nicer to one another - perhaps - namely
the idea that there is only one mind, shuffling through every possible
life. Of course this is an infinite sequence, and the mind would I guess be
something like God, living inside his creation so as to experience it - the
universe creating senses with which to perceive itself, or words to that
effect.

Or were you after literary criticism?



On 23 October 2013 15:49, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you think of The Egg?
 http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.eduwrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is
 on-optic; it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means,
 Try not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or
 where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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Re: I have a very good question but I don't know how to ask it...

2013-10-22 Thread Samiya Illias
No, not criticizing!
This poem seems to express the question more comprehensibly, and I just
wanted to see what others think of it?
The idea that all is one is interesting, though it is at variance with my
belief. But, my belief is faith-based, and therefore not valid for others,
I suppose. However, I do believe in interconnectedness  through the fabric
of space-time. And that also encourages being nicer to one another :)


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

 It echoes a thought I've had myself at times, and which if turned into a
 religion might even make people be nicer to one another - perhaps - namely
 the idea that there is only one mind, shuffling through every possible
 life. Of course this is an infinite sequence, and the mind would I guess be
 something like God, living inside his creation so as to experience it - the
 universe creating senses with which to perceive itself, or words to that
 effect.

 Or were you after literary criticism?



 On 23 October 2013 15:49, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you think of The Egg?
 http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.eduwrote:

 Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is
 on-optic; it has something to do with a supercomputer.

 Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
 attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess Han without
 actually doing it, such that Tim Lee becomes reborn as Wakka?

 It''s actually a good question, but if you have no idea what it means,
 Try not to embarrass yourself by thinking you know. It has to with the fact
 that I think we converge the same person in the end which becomse our own
 beginning. Unfortunatley, sometimes we lose track of where we started or
 where you're spposed to do...

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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